Why are people not more angry about the government's handling of the crisis?

[jobhunter7]

Or are the newspaper not giving an accurate picture of people's feelings?

33,186 deaths recorded so far.

Surely plenty of these people had families and friends?

I suppose they can't really march at the moment.

Redolent
By 1st February he was writing ...

The sentence immediately before your extract -

"It is still too early, and available information is still too incomplete, to be certain about many aspects of the 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) outbreak in China."

It's a pandemic,there is no way to 'get things right'.
Pandemics mean people die,all over the world.
What's the point of bandying numbers around when we're only a few months in.It is no where near over.
And how does getting angry at the government help?

To be quite fair I am angry but not at the government at the idiots who dont believe in lockdown for most of my street have had daily visitors gone out everyday shopping everyday

The other thing I think people have forgotten is that the lockdown was imposed to flatten the curve not kill the virus. It was never going to do anything other than prevent ICUs from being overwhelmed. Mission accomplished. Now the next stage is much harder. The virus was never going to go away. And indeed it might never.

"It won't get you anywhere and is very divisive when we're all in this together"

lol

Channel 4 news did a huge segment on care workers. And how they are under paid , under valued, classed as low skilled and why they cant socially distance due to the appalling places some of them live in.

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A care worker interviewed lives in one room with her son and they share bathroom and kitchen facilities with ten other families.

A care worker was ill with Covid for 28 days and was brought a hot meal every day by Hare Krishna She has to walk an hour to get to work and same to get home because she cant afford public transport.

www.channel4.com/news/charities-demand-care-home-workers-are-paid-a-living-wage

And how does getting angry at the government help?
Because at this stage we can still change things for the better. Or at least prevent them getting even worse.

We either start getting our act together and following the lead of the rest of the world or we end up in the same or worse position several months later.

I'd say rather than angry, we should be challenging the government's poor decisions so far. And call for them to take the same sensible life and economy saving measures that many other countries worldwide are taking.

Probably better to call for decent housing than a small wage rise that still wouldn't meet housing costs in many areas (and all areas including the more expensive ones need carers, etc).

I'm angry.

But as my name would suggest, being terrified also takes up quite a lot of emotional energy.

I think the anger will take off once the fear is over. That's when we'll get the judicial reckoning for the bunch of mass murderers in power currently.

That's when we'll get the judicial reckoning for the bunch of mass murderers in power currently.

There’s mindless internet frothing, and then there’s next-level stuff like this...

For what is worth I'm bloody furious... have suffered lost and unable to attend a funeral.

Boris and his government have refused to listen to WHO, such arrogance.. have allowed Cheltenham and Football to go ahead .. and conned everyone by saying they were following the science..rubbish. Science is science , whether in Italy , China or the USA...they pick and chose the science they wanted to fit their political agenda. I licked down to shield 3 weeks before we were told to.. because it was obvious what was about to hit us. Now we are lifting the lockdown.. ignoring all the evidence that it is too soon and before we have put enough support in place. .. needless to say I will be lockdown until second wave has been.

They're all in this together, just like in WW2. They are telling us so pretty much to our faces . Why is noone listening?

@jobhunter7 it’s also pretty exhausting when a loved one has died. If someone in my family had died, unless it was one of my children/DH, I doubt I’d really have it in me to get angry.

@GhostofFrankGrimes ah I see, I thought there was some kind of cooks conspiracy theory going around.

People are angry but there's a big contingent of accounts online posting bollocks like talking about deaths is unnecessarily negative, unpatriotic etc so it looks like people are not bothered or support Boris.

It is difficult to show anger right now. The people protesting lockdown are not showing their anger "fairly" as they will cost police and NHS resources (plus I don't agree with their views on lockdown)

But that was a decision by the NHS (or at least, various people employed by it), not the government.

No, it was the government.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-hospital-discharge-service-requirements

www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-admission-and-care-of-people-in-care-homes

They have done terribly. Against common sense in all respects.
Why did they just allow flights to carry on as normal and let the airlines not cancel flights to keep everyone’s money?
Why was there no quarantine for people arriving in the country?
Why did we initially only strictly allow tests for people coming from certain high risk areas when it was likely circulating in the community, because ya know, that’s how viruses work?
Why were family of infected people not instructed to self isolate in the beginning?
Why no contact tracing?
Why were flights to and from Italy allowed up until the middle of March?
Why was my FIL not allowed a test because he wasn’t ‘coughing up blood’ therefore ‘did not have the virus’?
Why do we not have enough PPE, we should have been able to tell everyone to wear masks from the beginning like in other countries?
Why were people discharged from hospital into care homes?
Why did they allow Cheltenham and other events to go ahead?
Why did they only let PHE do the testing up until a few weeks ago, and now why is it only certain hospitals so others have to send their samples off, delaying results?

How can anyone say this government is even remotely competent.

I don't understand why anyone wouldn't be furious about this (from the BBC):

“In the four weeks to 24 April, more people were killed by coronavirus in London than died during the worst four-week period of aerial bombing of the city during the Blitz in World War Two”

www.bbc.com/news/52282844

The sheer scale of death is something the Government could have prevented, and have failed to do so.

"The sheer scale of death is something the Government could have prevented, and have failed to do so."
No they couldnt. It's a pandemic. That scale of deaths could be expected whatever the Government did. Unless you think we should have locked down as soon as it started?

TabbyMumz
Yes they could, they absolutely could, Boris cancelling his holiday in Feb would have been a start. How can you look at the many, many other countries with leaders who have handled this crisis much, much better and say - No they couldnt. It's a pandemic. That scale of deaths could be expected whatever the Government did. If you really think that how do you explain low infection rates and deaths in other countries? And we had more notice than many of them but our government chose to do fuck all with that time and our leader went on holiday with his girlfriend and was more interested in getting his divorce sorted out.

Tabbymumz I'm not suggesting that they could prevent all deaths, but as many other countries have shown, even those with similar population sizes and densities, eg Germany, much more could have been done (and sooner). To suggest that the scale of this is something the Government had no influence over is ridiculous.

eg Germany

Even in Germany, over 11,000 staff working in medical facilities have tested positive for COVID-19 - these figures do not include care home staff;

13 May - "Until now 11,369 cases with a SARS-CoV-2 infection have been notified among staff working in medical facilities as defined by Section 23 IfSG. Among the cases reported as working in medical facilities, 73% were female and 27% male.The median age was 41 years, 17 persons died."

www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Situationsberichte/2020-05-13-en.pdf?__blob=publicationFile

"Boris cancelling his holiday in February would have been a start"
If he did have a holiday, do you really think it's all down to him and he wasnt contactable? How ridiculous. He doesnt run the show on his own.

"How can you look at the many, many other countries with leaders who have handled this crisis much, much better and say -No they couldnt. It's a pandemic."

Because we dont know that they have handled it better. We cant rely on any of their figures, we do not know what they included in their figures. Half the other countries havent had any furlough pay or anything and live in absolute poverty. I think we are quite lucky to be here in the UK. In India the Government promised the immigrant workers transport home. It never happened and they had to walk thousands of miles. They dont get Government help there. And you think we are badly done to?