Why are people not more angry about the government's handling of the crisis?

[jobhunter7]

Or are the newspaper not giving an accurate picture of people's feelings?

33,186 deaths recorded so far.

Surely plenty of these people had families and friends?

I suppose they can't really march at the moment.

It doesn’t matter what the goverment do, people will say it’s wrong. It’s the Left wing way.

Eggybreadleg

we don’t have the highest death rate in Europe. You need to calculate it properly. Get someone to do it for you if you can’t manage it.

Personally I’m furious about how it’s been handled and how (yet again) we are the subject of pity and ridicule internationally. The Government was far too slow to act, Boris is not interested in dealing with ‘difficult’, he’s only interested in being seen as a figurehead and is just not very bright. He has surrounded himself with a largely inept cabinet, chosen in the basis that (a) they will not challenge Brexit and (b) they will not show him up as stupid.
A government’s first duty is to take care of its citizens and on every level they have failed.
I’m furious.

I get annoyed with all the hoo-ha about PPE - so many people saying 'why didn't they buy it all in when they did the pandemic crisis exercise three years ago' 'why didn't they hold it in stock?'

1. Because it would have gone out of date by now!!!! there have already been headlines galore about people having to use 'out of date' masks, gowns etc.

1. For the same reason that all the muppets who went out panic buying flour and loo rolls didn't buy all that stuff in advance - no one ever thought it would be needed and there were better things to spend money on and use the storage space for.

Then they ask "Why didn't the Government get more PPE in " answer: because the world and his wife were ordering the bloody stuff and it takes time to make and despatch! I don't think its right that frontline healthcare workers did not have access to the correct PPE but, in the early days, no one knew what the correct PPE was. Its only with the glorious benefit of hindsight can people say "they" should have done this or that.

Who knows atm exactly who has the worse etc, the government is correct about one thing that excess deaths will be the most accurate figure. I wonder what they are going say when this proves that they are as well! It is not looking good so far.

We were supposed to be prepared. We ran scenarios that showed our weaknesses and they were ignored. We could have done much, much more. But instead the Tories ignored the probability that a pandemic was coming. When it arrived, Boris shook peoples hands and told us we had to take it on the chin.

I am furious. And there is nothing I can do about it.

@Utterlydespairing Nice try

twitter.com/matthaig1/status/1260891832134885376?s=20

And the figures are even worse by the governments own admission. But they are mainly sticking to the lower figure
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/884682/2020-05-12_COVID-19_Press_Conference_Slides__7_.pdf

"we are the subject of pity and ridicule internationally"
Are you sure that's just not in your head?

Alas no, TabbyMumz. The Coronavirus response is the mouldy cherry on top of the shit cake that was Brexit, in terms of our international reputation.

@Utterlydespairing

@Eggybreadleg
we don’t have the highest death rate in Europe. You need to calculate it properly. Get someone to do it for you if you can’t manage it.

Quite. You don't just look at the actual total no of deaths and declare we are the worst in Europe, it's not that simple. A few more details need to be taken into account..

Some people have believed the spin that the government have spun including messages on social media saying now is not the time to question what the government is doing. The government is no longer showing the graphs that compare the UK with other countries with the excuse that it's too early to make those comparisons. By the time we have an enquiry into all this, the current politicians will all be comfortably retired.

Some of the media has not been objective/ challenging enough.

Some people think the lives of old people or those with underlying health conditions don't matter.

Most of the problems to date have been caused by senior management of the NHS but we are all told that we love the NHS and clap for them. (this is a criticism of the management not the workers) and blame everything going wrong on the govt.

For example, it was Public Health England who insisted on setting up their own exclusive central testing labs which took forever and eventually when it was clear that they would never be able to cope private labs were finally drafted in. Until recently the daily graphs differentiated which type of test was used and private labs are running about 2/3 of the positive tests so I assume a similar amount of the total tests.

The reality is that the NHS has been very poorly managed at the top level but the govt can't point that out because it would create panic and disorder.

@mondaynoon considering that something like 65% of voters over 65 voted Conservative in last election, I find the theory that 'they don't think old people matter' or whatever a bit odd. It would be a bit churlish not to give a shit about a massive demographic that vote for them, would it not?

If I was to be angry it wouldnt be at my government it would be at China.

@Blobby10 - one of the worst stories I have read about PPE is that Italy actually donated huge amounts of the stuff to other countries a few days before they became overwhelmed themselves with coronavirus. It very quickly moved from being a chinese problem to a European one.

Someone voted for a clown and this is the circus he gives us all. I think the people who are supposed to be angry with this situatuon - such as myself- didnt expect anything better from him ... bar is sooo low right now...

I am not following goverment's advice anymore.. I am not in the vulnarable/high risk group but I still almost shielded myself ... mininum contact with outside world...

This goverment isnt in any shape to advise me. Take care of yourself, they clearly dont care !!

I don't dislike Boris and in some alternate universe, I could imagine him appearing on comedy panel shows. He'd be good at that sort of thing.

I am sad and disappointed and devastated that a friend has died from it, and shocked and frustrated at how slow some (not all) actions taken.
I cant believe that only this week they have started thinking about quarantine people who have come into the country.

...but despite everything I really hope that no other country would "ridicule" or say we were a "laughing stock" in view of the catastrophic effects the virus have had here. I cant imagine anyone would find it remotely amusing.

UK takes a pasting from world's press over coronavirus crisis.

Britain’s reputation for its handling of the coronavirus epidemic has taken another global pasting after newspapers worldwide reported on what they described as confusion and internal divisions that are rapidly creating a crisis as big as Brexit for the UK.

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/12/uk-takes-a-pasting-from-worlds-press-over-coronavirus

@howdidwegetheremary
There might be evidence that it “might” date back to October. There is also evidence suggesting it might have already arrived in Europe at the end of December. There are thousands of viruses going round at any one time. You honestly think the Chinese could have identified and catalogued a totally new virus, with symptoms similar to a hundred other diseases “just like that”. “easy peasy”. You haven’t a clue. Yes, the local government dithered a week or two in December once they’ were already pretty sure they were dealing with something new, and then arguably the central government dithered another week.
but the whole world knew as much as China did about this since mid January - if they had they cared to listen and, of course, act.
The likes of Britain didn’t act until Mid March.
No more excuses, please

Dithered about a bit? While the planet got infected from the millions leaving the country and yet you try to accuse the U.K. government of mass murder or whatever other batshit crazy accusations your throwing? Have a day off will you.

I've started a thread about this but I'm going to report it here. Kerala in India, a state of 35 million, has had only 4 deaths. We should be livid in this country about how many pp have died, but we're not...

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/14/the-coronavirus-slayer-how-keralas-rock-star-health-minister-helped-save-it-from-covid-19

UK takes a pasting from world's press over coronavirus crisis.

Trust the Guardian to publish some anti-British rubbish.

Plenty to be angry about in the Government response - PPE, Type/date of lockdown, care homes etc etc

Why isn’t there more anger?

BoJo, for all his mistakes, has walked the walk personally to ITU. So he’s almost paid the ultimate price for any prior folly.

Labour, other than Starmer’s nitpicking, haven’t offered much by way of what they would do differently, just judgement in hindsight. Starmer wasn’t social distancing on the day of Cheltenham. The main thing on Labour’s agenda in March was trying to get Priti Patel sacked.

In a nutshell, people are prepared to cut the government a little slack as they bumble on through this difficult crisis.

A public enquiry afterwards is a certainty.