Would you be happy to lock down for the next two years?

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If the government restrictions stayed in place?

So until May 2022.

If it stops needless deaths, then yes

I'm assuming you don't drive a car?

You assume right. Never had one.
Bit odd to quote my post after 21 pages but hey ho.

Hell no. This isn’t a way to live.

No way. Not for something that the majority of people recover from.

There are thousands of viruses and other diseases that could kill any one of us at any given time. I could crash my car, get knocked down by a car, fall down the stairs and break my neck, be in a plane crash, have a massive heart attack...etc. etc.

I agree with the lockdown and have obeyed all the rules. I will continue to do so for the foreseeable also but there will come a point where I get pissed off.

I don't want to keep working and paying my taxes to fund people on a two year long furlough, or to pay for schools that aren't open, or hospitals that are not providing full treatments to the population. I don't want to pay for screening services that aren't being carried out, parks that I can't use (ours are locked and the ones that aren't we would have to drive to which isn't allowed - Scotland) or libraries and other council services that aren't open.

So yeah I can work from home and I can homeschool my kids but if this goes on for too much longer I want a massive fucking tax cut.

@wanderings

I've been wondering since day one why there hasn't been any unrest at all, apart from sneaky breaking of lockdown roolz. Public anger is well overdue. Perhaps the red mist will descend some time after the lockdown is over, when people are licking their financial wounds, students are realising they have to pay full tuition fees for a degree which is even less likely to help them find a job, young people are realising that they have no future, civil liberties have not been restored, and people are dying not from covid, but from the consequences of recession and lockdown

Well said.

I've been wondering since day one why there hasn't been any unrest at all, apart from sneaky breaking of lockdown roolz. Public anger is well overdue. Perhaps the red mist will descend some time after the lockdown is over, when people are licking their financial wounds, students are realising they have to pay full tuition fees for a degree which is even less likely to help them find a job, young people are realising that they have no future, civil liberties have not been restored, and people are dying not from covid, but from the consequences of recession and lockdown

I think it will come. I know I am not thinking rationally and I am not proud of it but after losing my job yesterday I am very angry that me and my kids are being thrown under the bus to largely save pensioners.

Yes.

(And no I don’t drive a car?

@LostJobtoday I’m sorry about your job, but that doesn’t mean other people dying doesn’t matter.

People saying no are imagining a world where they can just get back to normal and it will all be fine.

It won’t.

Can't believe people are saying yes! It's not living it's existing isn't it shut in the house 24.7 oh sorry we can walk to a park thats it a park.
I'm sick of going to the park already it's tedious and then pretending to the kids we're going for a fun walk where they can't even go on the swings anymore or we can't go with nan and grandad.
Also don't go near anyone at the park it's us just us always.
No thanks

Yes I know. I did say it wasn’t rational and I’m not proud, but the country will be fucked of those who could and should be economically can’t be.

People saying yes are imagining a world where no one needs to pay a mortgage, eat, go to a dentist, access medical treatment for anything other than C19, receive an education, use electricity, gas, water...

No. They are all in this together.

Exactly. The country is fucked after a couple of months of this! People who think this is sustainable for 2 months longer yet alone 2 years are seriously away with the fairies.

People saying no are imagining a world where they can just get back to normal and it will all be fine

No, I’m not. How can you even claim to know what I’m ‘imagining’. We’re not stupid. We know things won’t be hunky dory from tomorrow. But no, I would not stay in lockdown for 2 years and neither will my children. This virus may be around forever. It may be something we have to accept, live alongside, and to accept a lower overall life expectancy. Well that’s fine by me.

@Drivingdownthe101 I’m referring to the posts saying things like “no, I miss going swimming”

And the silly thing is that pensioners don’t want this! My parents are in their 70s and find the whole thing really frustrating. They have plenty of space and no financial worries. Whereas we are stuck in a tiny house, trying to work, no childcare. They would love to be able to help us and feel very angry about the situation young families are being put in. They say they don’t feel like they are being done any favours as they can’t see grandkids or help their families so what is the point? To sit in their big house and watch telly, do puzzles, prune the garden for the 100th time?!

Yes, and these people will be able to go swimming again at some point, and it’s likely to be sooner than 2 years away.

after losing my job yesterday I'm angry that me and my kids are being thrown under the bus to largely save pensioners.

Well, if you're lucky we'll all be dead soon and everyone else can get on with their lives.

Given that all the pensioners, and everyone else, in care homes have all been 'thrown under the bus' as well when people from care homes were returned to them still carrying the virus, lockdown hasn't done a great job of saving them really, has it?

It's not just pensioners dying though is it? And given that more children are presenting with this general inflammatory disorder that appears to be linked to Covid19 we might soon find that we're having to lockdown to save the children.

Hopefully, if that happens, we won't get disgruntled pensioners coming on here moaning about being in lockdown to 'largely save' children.

after losing my job yesterday I'm angry that me and my kids are being thrown under the bus to largely save pensioners

We’re all being thrown under the bus to avoid the NHS being overwhelmed. Cancer patients, cardiac patients, everyone being denied surgery are being thrown under the bus. So are women in abusive relationships.

to largely save pensioners.

You do realise that without the lockdown, the NHS would have been swamped and lots more younger people would not only have got the virus, but wouldn't have been given the treatment to save their lives???

It's because of the lockdown that the NHS has coped with fewer numbers and have been able to treat the younger people who've caught it.

The lockdown was never about saving pensioners, it was always about protecting the NHS - giving it breathing space to set itself up to be able to treat huge numbers of people, which has been successful.

We’re all being thrown under the bus to avoid the NHS being overwhelmed. Cancer patients, cardiac patients, everyone being denied surgery are being thrown under the bus.

Yes, indeed. My OH had his cancer treatment stopped mid cycle "to save the NHS". He's not a pensioner but is now highly unlikely to survive the Summer as his condition is deteriorating on a daily basis and the NHS don't give a shit!

I am actually allowed to feel upset at how this has impacted me @pigsDOfly especially as it only happened yesterday. I did say it wasn’t rational and I didn’t feel proud to feel that way, and I probably won’t when the shock has worn off, but it has largely been older people with health issues who have died and there must come a point that the damage to wider society is greater than the harm to citizens for the virus.

That’s awfull @Kazzyhoward we are in same position with my dad. It’s not fair how this stupid virus is just taking priority over everything. You’re right @Alsohuman other than CV patients we are all being thrown under the bus.

What is becoming obvious is that whilst private industry, shops, etc have mostly managed to continue to stay operational and some have expanded, the NHS, schools, etc have responded by massive contraction in their services and what seems to be massive inertia holding them back from moving forward again.