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So who will be returning their children to school in June?

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Bigfishylittlefishy · 11/05/2020 10:45

Just that really. Parents of reception, year 1 and year 6, IF schools return on the 1st of June, will you send your child in?

My son is in reception and I would be willing to send him in.

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Namechange8471 · 14/05/2020 11:18

I will be sending dd back. She is autistic and needs routine back, especially the transition period.

Randomschoolworker19 · 14/05/2020 12:58

For bubbles to work in school they will need to be done as family bubbles and not just by year groups, otherwise you could have the following:

Bobby, Cole and Ava are siblings. Bobby is in Year 6, Cole Year 1 and Ava R.

Ava goes to school in separate bubbles to her brothers, and catches the virus from her friend Maddison. Ava and Maddison don't show symptoms though and so they transmit the virus to the rest of the R bubble.

Ava also gives it to her working parents who begin to spread it at work, and to her brothers who go on to infect the bubbles in Year 1 and Year 6.

Peppafrig · 14/05/2020 13:44

@SueEllenMishke but then when your low risk child with no other bubbles goes to school with her 15 kids . In those 15 kids will be kids with sibling , public transport and work bubbles. Increasing your child's risks.

Peppafrig · 14/05/2020 13:45

@Terriblehairdontcare yes primary children and they get the school bus to school.

SueEllenMishke · 14/05/2020 14:35

Peppafrig yes i'm aware of that but we've weighed up the evidence and still consider it a very, very low risk.
Everything we do in life involves risk - people need to risk assess their own situation and make a decision based on that.
We're also waiting to see what measures the school put in place. I'm a governor at my son's school and trust them to make measured and considered decisions.
We'll also continue to monitor the situation - nobody is actually asking you to make a decision right now.

Natsku · 14/05/2020 17:16

9 year old DD had her first day back (in Finland) today. They were expected to social distance but only 1-1.5m not 2m which she said was strange but not so bad. Lunch time they went a couple of classes at a time and had to sit in a kind of zig zag way so that was no one directly next to or opposite anyone. Break time was also a couple of classes at a time and each class had their own area in the playground. They said they would be doing lessons outside but they didn't today.

She thinks its all rather strange but she still prefers it to being at home.

Floatyboat · 14/05/2020 17:32

I will send mine.

This captures my thoughts on the hysteria and lack of perspective

www.spiked-online.com/2020/05/14/parents-overcome-your-fears/

MonkeyToesOfDoom · 14/05/2020 18:31

Lol... Spiked... Lol..

A conservative supporting magazine supporting BoJo and not the teachers or teacher unions.
My surprise is unending in it's non starting.

Nicol90 · 14/05/2020 20:32

Definitely not, I have a year 6 daughter and she will not be going in. I am a teacher and I definitely will not. Schools are saying it’s safe but they have no idea. Our leaders don’t want to open but feel like they have to Because they’ve been told. No one, and I mean no one feels confident about them opening and their safety. I have seen first hand the terrible safety measures in place in schools. I am not confident that children/ parents or teachers will be safe. In fact there have been some more recent studies suggesting coronavirus can cause other health conditions in children. I will post the article below. Furthermore, the government said coronavirus was unlikely to impact people in care homes and now 40% of deaths have occurred in them I just don’t trust anything they say anymore. Definitely do not think it is safe, a teacher friend is in Intensive care currently having contracted coronavirus at school caring for the vulnerable because the safety measures and social distancing are impossible to enforce.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/2020/may/13/italian-doctors-find-link-between-covid-19-and-inflammatory-disorder

For the sake of only a month, why risk it if you don’t absolutely have to. Obviously some people have to. But as a teacher, if they tell me I have to go in I will simply refuse on the grounds that it is not safe.

Ellietotherescue7 · 14/05/2020 20:34

I will send my children in as we are already at risk as my teen DD works in a supermarket. I would prefer her to not to go to work tbh. But anyway, yes I would send my children in.

Floatyboat · 14/05/2020 21:53

@MonkeyToesOfDoom

Playing the ball not the man there monkey. I'm not trying to debate anyone, just share my line of thought.

Nicol90 · 14/05/2020 22:18

As you can see, unions say it is not safe in schools. This is a letter I received from my union. And every other union has said the same. If you think it is safe, you are poorly mistaken. I know it puts many in difficult positions.

So who will be returning their children to school in June?
So who will be returning their children to school in June?
Nicol90 · 14/05/2020 22:23

Also don’t get ahead of ourselves, I doubt it’ll even happen!

MonkeyToesOfDoom · 14/05/2020 22:27

If you think it is safe, you are poorly mistaken

As evidenced perfectly in the post a couple above yours

I will send my children in as we are already at risk as my teen DD works in a supermarket. I would prefer her to not to go to work tbh

A girl at high risk as they work in a supermarket, catches it from a customer, passes it to their sibling and the parents send the kid to school because they're at risk anyway so screw it, everyone else can be at risk too.

I'm glad my kid won't be going back for the foreseeable of this is an acceptable attitude.

Callimanco · 14/05/2020 23:05

Brand new research in the BMJ, very reassuring:

adc.bmj.com/content/early/2020/05/05/archdischild-2020-319474

Nicol90 · 14/05/2020 23:05

Monkey toes of doom, well said and having worked in a school over this period I can say it is 100% not safe, I have watched my colleagues get ill and go to hospital.

I will go back to work at school where social distancing is frankly impossible, the day politicians sit next to each other in the House of Commons. That will signal that they truly believe social distancing is no longer necessary, it is safe and I can therefore work safely at school.

Currently their advice is a shambles and hypocritical. I can come in close contact with 15 three year olds, but not one three year old that I’m related to from another household. Other workers are protected through social distancing, have they simply decided that teachers and parents are not allowed that luxury.....

Nicol90 · 14/05/2020 23:06

That study is not peer reviewed and there are about 10 that are and say the opposite. The most recent research is that children do spread covid19

Nicol90 · 14/05/2020 23:08

It also is talking about “super spreaders” a phenomenon that happens with lots of diseases where a tiny proportion of the population seem to spread more effectively than others. The study is saying they are not super spreaders, they spread it the same as everyone else the same as adults do. Not reassuring at all given in school how much they cough and sneeze all over everything... if teaching unions, my lawyer and teachers are saying it’s not safe. I’m sorry it’s probably not safe...

middleager · 14/05/2020 23:09

Let's see if they actuallu do open for more FROM, not on, June 1st.

Plenty could change by then.

Even if this goes ahead, I think many parents (especially on here) need to pare back their expectations.

Nicol90 · 14/05/2020 23:12

Please post relevant information that can help people and not mislead people. Some parents may see that and think “oh children don’t spread covid19” when in fact that is not what the study is saying at all... they do spread covid 19.

Callimanco · 14/05/2020 23:25

Nicol can you link to one of the ten peer reviewed papers that say that children are super spreaders?

This is an early release as are most of the covid papers so they haven't had time to be peer reviewed yet. It's in the BMJ which is a reputable journal. I think this is relevant information that can help people; it's certainly relevant to the discussion. I have no issue with people debating the article but I object to your demand that only one type of information - that presumably agrees with your viewpoint - are posted. We are all grown ups. You aren't the thread police.

I think most of Mumsnet can read and see that it does not claim in the article that children do not transmit covid at all.

Nicol90 · 14/05/2020 23:31

I never said there were articles saying that children were super spreaders. I said that children are NOT super spreaders, it is a term used for a very small percentage of the population. Therefore posting a study that says children are not super spreaders is very misleading. They spread covid19 like any other normal person, super spreaders are a tiny percentage of the population. I will happily link my studies, I will compile the studies that do say covid19 is spread by children and post them on here. These studies exist. I am asking people to exercise caution and you are posting misleading studies that may mean people make unnecessary risks....

Nicol90 · 14/05/2020 23:34

I have also posted above how new studies are showing that children are developing other inflammatory diseases as a result of covid19. Whether you send your child in or not makes no difference to me, luckily I will not be teaching them!

Nicol90 · 14/05/2020 23:37

If you look at the royal college of paediatrics, an extremely large governing body of doctors and researchers. They have confirmed that yes children do transmit covid19.

So who will be returning their children to school in June?