People living in tourist spots should probably be concerned right now.

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Now that Boris has said people can drive for exercise and leisure, you know they'll flock to seaside's, lakes, peaks, etc.
Which means if they're carriers they'll be spreading the virus to petrol stations pumps, gates, railings etc.

I don't get the logic behind him saying that tbh.

I don't hold with rudeness. In either direction.

Of course it works both ways. I haven't ventured into a city or a town since this started, nor has any of my family.

However, when it's a gloriously sunny and/or hot day, people from the country generally don't flock to inner city parks to have a picnic.

But lots of people in cities DO flock to the seaside and to the countryside to enjoy walks, sunbathing, picnics etc.

Obviously there isn't an issue with this in normal times, but at the moment there is.

Can country folk please stay away from city and town centres and main transport hubs when they open... we don't want cities being flooded with country folk and their germs.
People live in cities too you know!

Sounds good too me. Towns and cities are just filled with parasitic germ carrying vermin that take the food but look down on those that provide it.

(Frothing incoming in... 3....2....1.... Go..)

I also don't hold with unnecessary viral spread. In either direction.

And this virus is too new to know for sure yet how it's going to perform in terms of immunity given, if any.

I don’t appreciate the additional tone from local permanent residents that infers that any Londoners must automatically be bringing CV with us

I don't think anyone is implying that.

What they are saying is when the local hospital doesn't even have an ICU, and we're in the middle of a global pandemic, it's probably not wise to have thousands of people travelling up from all across the country!

Can country folk please stay away from city and town centres and main transport hubs when they open... we don't want cities being flooded with country folk and their germs.

Yep, happily. I have no interest in going anywhere near any cities anytime soon. Far too overcrowded.

Hopefully if enough people behave sensibly and the R value stays well below 1, there will be more relaxation. Allowing second home owners to move to them for a period (ie stay for a couple of months or more not to-ing and fro-ing, or having a succession of various friends and family using the place) is the sort of thing which perhaps could be considered?

It just seems people living in the countryside have no qualms about travelling into towns to shop and go to school ... or will you wait until a vaccine comes along next year to do that?

I am wondering if the pp criticising permanent residents' 'tone' is related to or a friend of Matt Hancock? Criticising someone's tone suggests they are less than you and should be tugging their forelocks or doffing their caps.

I live in the countryside, we don’t need to go to towns to shop or go to school !

Surely most extremely rural people go to school and shop in the nearest village?

That said though, it's not really comparable to people travelling for recreation to the countryside.

Shopping for food and going to school are essential journeys, while venturing to the countryside for a walk or a picnic isn't.

It just seems people living in the countryside have no qualms about travelling into towns to shop and go to school ... or will you wait until a vaccine comes along next year to do that?

I live in a very small rural town with a shop AND a school. We even have internet here...

Not all of the countryside is rural cottages with no permanent facilities

However, when it's a gloriously sunny and/or hot day, people from the country generally don't flock to inner city parks to have a picnic.

Come the winter and the run-up to Xmas the flow of people is usually the other way ... many businesses in towns depending on people from their hinterland coming in to shop.
It's unlikely that will be happening this year. The issues and economic impacts work all ways round, unfortunately.

I'm trying to support such businesses where possible if they sell online instead of bloody amazon - I want towns and cities not to be ruined even though I may not be able to go to them for a long while yet.

Second home owners are at least paying council tax ... day trippers parking on verges and bringing their own food have zero upside to rural communities at the moment and negatives apart from CV. So I'm not going to be one.

It just seems people living in the countryside have no qualms about travelling into towns to shop and go to school

Do people in t'country not have to abide by catchment rules now? I didn't knar tha.. by eck.ar shud sen.me babba te a skooll int village... Just a te build a begger first

Yes, there's a great difference between going to your local market town a few miles away for school, essential supplies and so on, and going off to the countryside or coast many miles away for a jolly just because you fancy it. Under normal circumstances, fine. Now, not fine.

If people are concerned they should stay at home ...simple.
I'll drive to places in order to go for a walk as I'm sick and tired of the local walks. I will keep my 2m away from anyone I see during my walks and I will respect people's concerns. But I honestly cannot stay indoors/walk around my local area anymore because some people are nervous.

Vanillaandhoney ... I am merely asking you to imagine a world where people fear CV in cities and towns ... they cannot afford rural idylls and do not welcome countryside dwellers descending on their local larger supermarkets and stores either.
Life is different for others and I'm sure you're at some point might need items that only a town or city can provide.
Maybe If lockdown is released locally, city dwellers won't want your viruses either?
Maybe your older children need to stay away from their university or secondary school?
It's a pity you can't see people in cities are worried about new outbreaks too

Life is different for others and I'm sure you're at some point might need items that only a town or city can provide.

Do you really not see the difference between need and want?

Nobody needs to travel to Cornwall/Devon/Cumbria to go for a picnic.

If people are concerned they should stay at home ...simple.

The whole fecking country should be concerned FFS. Not just think,
"ah well if it spreads, fuck it, it's just a few more thousand people possibly dead, who gives a shit? I'm going for a walk cause I want a walk and my walk is more important than a mother I don't know going to ICu, a child I've never met being hospitalised or a grandma I've never seen dropping dead. My walk is definitely more important than the front line workers risking their health to try and fight it, arseholes, fuck them too... I want to walk."

But I honestly cannot stay indoors/walk around my local area anymore because some people are nervous.

Well, you can. You just don't want to.

"Life Matters" is an ironic username - people aren't just nervous. They are frightened for their own lives and the lives of their family and friends.

VanillaandHoney
I DON'T WANT TO COME INTO YOUR COUNTRYSIDE.
I just want you to understand city dwellers don't want COUNTRYSIDE DWELLERS to come into the city either.

I just want you to understand city dwellers don't want COUNTRYSIDE DWELLERS to come into the city either.

THAT'S WHY WE DONT
cities are shit.

So long as you're going somewhere you're sure you will be able to maintain proper social distancing then that's absolutely fine, LifeMatters.
The problem is too many people going to the same places. People not realising how busy they may be, where the 'pinch points' etc are.

It's a pity you can't see people in cities are worried about new outbreaks too

Of course they are... which is one of the reasons having people from a large area all deciding to go to beaches and beauty spots is a bad idea.
Apart from the high incidence already present locally in Cumbria, if there's loads of people climbing hills or doing nice lakeside walks or on beaches who've come from lots of different towns then you're increasing the chances of spreading the virus around. The weekend of good weather just before lockdown with the paths up Snowdon teeming with people ... it's in range of Liverpool, Manchester and many other town, and is typically busy on the paths and crowded at the summit ... that really wasn't good, was it?

I just want you to understand city dwellers don't want COUNTRYSIDE DWELLERS to come into the city either.

I don't know why you're shouting - I have no intention of going anywhere near a city