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Well that was clear as mud, so is meeting family allowed now or what??

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Crimples · 10/05/2020 19:21

Not that it matters to me personally, being in Scotland but that was just the biggest load of waffley waffle.
Not even a mention of meeting other households.

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Flaxmeadow · 10/05/2020 21:45

being in a garden isn't the same as going into a house

A garden is part of the household

lyralalala · 10/05/2020 21:54

It's not clear because it was a snippet of a 50 page document and parts of the media are talking about bits of the document Boris didn't mention, but they have been briefed on

Like the meeting one other person thing

Like the quarantine if you come into the country, but not if you come from Ireland, France, on a boat or other random exceptions

IncrediblySadToo · 10/05/2020 21:54

Well, if you can sit in a park 2 meters away from strangers, I don’t see why you can’t do exactly the same with a friend/family member

Because you're not generally speaking to & interacting with strangers. You will be speaking to friends. Far more chance of spreading CV.

Would think going to the park is OK, but with distancing

Not to meet people no, members if your household yes.

If my friends or extended family are in a park and sit and have a picnic and I find myself 2 metres away from them having my own picnic then why is that a problem ?

As above

daisypond · 10/05/2020 21:54

A garden is part of the household
No, it isn’t. Household means the people living together, not the actual premises.

totiredtocare · 10/05/2020 21:55

@Flaxmeadow how is sitting in a garden different from sitting on a park? That's what is frustrating people. We're told being outside is ok if socially distant. Provided you don't need to go through the house to get into the garden, and the garden is large enough to be at least 2 meters apart, how is that different to sitting on a park? I have a big garden... I can't have my mum sit there with me but I could sit on a park 2 meters away from her surrounded by strangers. That is the issue.

Echobelly · 10/05/2020 21:55

They haven't mentioned meeting other households, I suspect because they have no way of policing it, though that said, thus far they haven't policed it at all anyway, even though it's not allowed.

A lot of people (us included) are having brief chats with family outdoors at a distance, some aren't seeing anyone, and a small minority are having people round closer for longer periods.

If they were to allow it, my first instinct would be to initially stick to going round to someone else/having someone over once a fortnight only, as that would minimise that chance of passing on to others. Honestly, the line the gov's taking, which is essentially self policing, it might be best for them to mandate that as least likely to increase risk because then at least people would have something to work with and might be more likely to stick with it even if you can't police it.

daisypond · 10/05/2020 21:55

Would think going to the park is OK, but with distancing
Yes, that is now OK, as long as it is a single person and you sit two metres away.

lyralalala · 10/05/2020 21:56

They haven't mentioned meeting other households, I suspect because they have no way of policing it, though that said, thus far they haven't policed it at all anyway, even though it's not allowed.

They did say, when they mentioned sport, only with your household and the fine would be higher to those breaching if

Chillipeanuts · 10/05/2020 21:57

“They haven't mentioned meeting other households”

Yes he did. He said we could play sports, but only with members of our household. Surely that covers it?

M0recakeplease · 10/05/2020 21:58

BBC says you can meet someone from outside your household as long as you stay 2 meters apart?!

Well that was clear as mud, so is meeting family allowed now or what??
Aberforthsgoat · 10/05/2020 22:02

I don't understand how people think that part was unclear. He said very clearly with members of your own household only.

Utterlydespairing · 10/05/2020 22:04

You have to be stupid to not understand what he said. Seriously.

RedToothBrush · 10/05/2020 22:04

The front page of the very pro-Johnson Telegraph is running with the second front page story (an editorial) titled:

"He gave us the map, but with only a few vague directions".

So I think the consensus was the speech was a carcrash and no one knew what the fuck he was saying in practice.

Well that was clear as mud, so is meeting family allowed now or what??
Givenupno · 10/05/2020 22:04

Yes, that is now OK, as long as it is a single person and you sit two metres away.

No it isn’t! I really don’t get what part people are struggling with.

You can’t meet friends or relatives outside of you immediate household at the park. You can go there with the people you live with, but must socially distance from anyone else who happens to be there.

No wonder the world is screwed when people can’t interpret and understand a pretty concise and basic statement

aquamarine2 · 10/05/2020 22:04

does this new set of rules mean that people are now able to leave the area in which they usually live and travel to their country home? ie., their usual home in London to spend time in their other home in the cotswolds?

KingscoteStaff · 10/05/2020 22:05

Well, that’s tennis courts and golf courses open, then, if that BBC quote is correct.

daisypond · 10/05/2020 22:06

You can’t meet friends or relatives outside of you immediate household at the park.
You can do that!. You can meet one person if you stay 2 metres apart and you are outside. It’s clear.

Devlesko · 10/05/2020 22:07

He specifically said "people of the same household" At no time did he say you could meet others from other households.
Don't people listen, or do they listen and then make up a version they like?

BeijingBikini · 10/05/2020 22:07

SO what businesses will be able to open that weren't able to before??? Travel agents, nail salons, spas, tours, zipwires, trampoline parks, baby groups obviously closed. Who is able to go to work that wasn't able to before? I can't actually think of one example, and I don't think I'm a dumb fuckwit....

lyralalala · 10/05/2020 22:09

Lots of media outlets are reporting this now

It’s a major change to omit from the briefing if true

And an absolute fuck-up if it’s not because so many people have heard it

Well that was clear as mud, so is meeting family allowed now or what??
Well that was clear as mud, so is meeting family allowed now or what??
Lumene · 10/05/2020 22:10

He specifically said "people of the same household" At no time did he say you could meet others from other households.

True. The trouble is Downing Street appear to have briefed to the lobby that you can see one person from another household outside from a distance of 2m

Boris didn’t tell us this, just the political journalists.

RedToothBrush · 10/05/2020 22:10

Well, that’s tennis courts and golf courses open, then, if that BBC quote is correct.

Being reported by other news outlets - The Times say it explicitly.

Lumene · 10/05/2020 22:12

No wonder the world is screwed when people can’t interpret and understand a pretty concise and basic statement

The govt has fucked up the messaging by witholding some ‘exclusive’ info for journalists.

nostaples · 10/05/2020 22:12

Garden centres and construction workers

Givenupno · 10/05/2020 22:13
  • does this new set of rules mean that people are now able to leave the area in which they usually live and travel to their country home? ie., their usual home in London to spend time in their other home in the cotswolds?”

No