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Are people really asking what it means...

194 replies

Whatsuppp · 10/05/2020 16:29

Lots of posts on here asking what "stay alert" means. Surely these people are not really that thick to ask what it meanHmmHmm

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SmileyClare · 10/05/2020 16:58

Helpfulperson If you can do those things whilst maintaining social distancing and the shops have taken measures to keep customers apart and so on. If someone is in a vulnerable group they have to remain shielded.

Obviously don't climb a large mountain, particularly if you're not fit enough and would require mountain rescue. Wink

ineedaholidaynow · 10/05/2020 16:58

@FirTree31Boris is speaking to us at 7pm tonight to tell us what his roadmap on how lockdown will be eased looks like. We have not yet been told what it is, no matter what the media like to think. We have just been given the new slogan. This is why people are so annoyed with some of the posters who are asking if this slogan means lockdown is over., or they need more details. We are going to get more details.

palacegirl77 · 10/05/2020 16:59

Questioning the government is not being "anti British". The fact we live in a democracy is what I actually live about this country and fear that we are stepping closer to losing that with the lack of scrutiny this government is allowing. That is the problem. You can't argue that stay at home is a lot more understandable than stay alert. Stay alert would be more relevant to a high terrorist level or something. Even stay safe is better. It will get changed.

SmileEachDay · 10/05/2020 17:00

Solutions not problems, you can't sit there saying they're doing a crap job if you don't offer a better solution!

Boris should have copied what Irish Leo did. His media management and his road map have been exemplary.

www.gov.ie/en/press-release/e5e599-government-publishes-roadmap-to-ease-covid-19-restrictions-and-reope/#phase-5-10-august

DollyTots · 10/05/2020 17:00

Stay alert. It seems really simple to me. Someone asked what to - I think the answer is yourself. Take responsibility and be aware of the decisions you are making and the potential consequences of those actions. Risk assess yourselves, you honestly are capable of it.

NeonK · 10/05/2020 17:00

Most people asking what it means aren't really asking what it means, they're pointing out that it's ambiguous.

"Limit contact with other people." Does that means you can see 20 people for 10 minutes, or 3 people for half an hour? Can you see them in your house? People will interpret that to suit their own agendas whereas 'Stay at Home' can only mean stay at home.

ineedaholidaynow · 10/05/2020 17:01

As people couldn't understand stay home, I don't think there is any slogan that would work really.

TruffleShuffles · 10/05/2020 17:02

There’s some sanctimonious arseholes on here. I can completely understand why @helpfulperson is asking if she can see her mom, the guidelines have changed from no mixing outside your household to limiting mixing with others. That can’t apply to work as that’s not possible so it does suggest that we can now mix with others outside of our household.

The addition of where possible after most points also is massively open to interpretation, regardless of how clever some of you think you are a lot of people are rather thick so vague statements like that are of no help to a huge amount of the general public. Let’s hope Boris makes it all clear tonight.

lazylinguist · 10/05/2020 17:02

I think 'stay alert' is a pretty silly and vague choice of instruction and I'm not surprised people are questioning what is meant by it. 'Stay at home' is a clear instruction. 'Keep 2m apart' is a clear instruction. 'Wash your hands' is a clear instruction. 'Stay alert' is not.

Besides, it's no good saying "People should understand perfectly well unless they are thick". Instructions do also need to be comprehensible to those who are of below average intelligence, which is obviously a lot of the population- that's how averages work.

ineedaholidaynow · 10/05/2020 17:02

@SmileEachDay we are supposedly getting something similar when Boris announces it at 7pm tonight!

Gfplux · 10/05/2020 17:03

Britain needs Lerts.

Crunchymum · 10/05/2020 17:03

Stay alert as lockdown mark two can happen at any time. Get stocked up on your bog roll and handwash as washing your hands is back on the agenda.

Honestly, it's designed to be fucking vague as the onus is on us now!!

Utterlydespairing · 10/05/2020 17:05

Why do you suppose they chose to include the phrase “where possible” and what impact do you think that might have on employees?

Because in lots of jobs, including mine, it’s not possible to social distance and do you know what? No one cares.

MrSheenandMe · 10/05/2020 17:05

Can I visit my mum? -
Well if Mum is in a care home and 87 and you work as a bus driver - probably not. If Mum is a fairly fit 68 and you and your DP have been staying at home for the last 6 weeks - the risk is lower - I probably would. If you are risk averse and your Mum's new partner is a manager in Tesco's it might be an idea to wait. If Mum lives round the corner and has been isolating properly - probably more likely you can visit than if she lives in Tenerife or at the other end of the country and is a regular lockdown-breaker.

Be alert to the risks - use common sense - take responsibility. It isn't difficult.

NoNamesNoPackDrillHere · 10/05/2020 17:06

As others have said, watch tv at 7.
If still confused, they can go to the Online CBBC Newsround tab where all is explained in language easy to understand for the little dears.

Utterlydespairing · 10/05/2020 17:06

Also astounded that the majority of people don’t know what ‘stay alert’ means? I mean, come on!

ineedaholidaynow · 10/05/2020 17:08

Maybe head, brick and wall could be made up into a slogan!

TheFairyCaravan · 10/05/2020 17:09

Like Nicola Sturgeon said, most of us always go about our lives being alert to dangers, but what does "stay alert" to covid mean? Does it mean stay at home or can we go out, because not a great deal has changed other than Tory ministers moaning that the public may have been a "little too willing" to comply with lockdown.

I won't be trekking off out. Boris has ballsed this up from the get go. He bragged he was shaking hands with Covid patients, didn't take heed of what was going on in other countries, didn't lockdown until it was too late, almost died now wants to get us all back out and about again when we've still got hundreds dying everyday. No chance am I risking it.

Nettleskeins · 10/05/2020 17:10

The question of whether we can travel.60miles for family reasons, go to buy paint without feeling guilty because it is to paint a kitchen, meet two friends in the park (when we dont.have relatives for example) can ds go back to his uni flat to clear it out?' Yes, it is actually all in the detail and if it was commonsense, why arent we doing a Sweden then????

Sparklingbrook · 10/05/2020 17:12

This was funny. Once. Back in the 80s. It's been on every thread multiple times.

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Laiste · 10/05/2020 17:13

SmileyClare - If you can do those things whilst maintaining social distancing and the shops have taken measures to keep customers apart and so on. If someone is in a vulnerable group they have to remain shielded.

Why doesn't it say that though? Why can't they talk specifics? Why are they relying on interpretation when it's this important? Why can't they cater for the lowest denominator (and those who like to willfully twist advice) and be more clear? Why can't they say - ''businesses which can keep their customers 2 meters apart at all times, AND their staff (or arrange PPE for the staff) AND arrange a space for any queuing can open. If not - they can't''. They must all be very well aware of the top 10/15 situations people are going to question about. Why can't someone sit down and write out clear foolproof answers to the most common questions? It's not like they haven't had time by now ....

It's all inference and a bit non-committal. As pp says you can almost hear them saying ''say this, not that, so that if it all goes tits up they can't hold us down to anything any of us said''. It's a bloody cop out and it's not good enough.

Snowjive2 · 10/05/2020 17:14

Let’s wait until 7pm. I’m sure the 10 minute pre-recorded message that we lucky people will be treated to them will explain it all.

And for those wondering why it’s pre-recorded, apart from the facts that (a) it’s a weekend and Doris doesn’t work those and (b) it means he won’t face questions, here’s a clue. His verbatim response to Starmer at PMQ last week. The fact is that he’s virtually inarticulate and they need to limit his exposure.

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 10/05/2020 17:15

When added to test, track and trace it makes even more sense.

That first bullet point is a definite change.... So now you may be out and about more don't forget the virus is still there. Stay alert makes perfect sense!

Really not sure what the fuss is about.

ineedaholidaynow · 10/05/2020 17:15

We haven't been given the detail yet. And even if we had, people would be on here trying to find a workaround so those rules don't apply to them, as they are special.

mondaynoon · 10/05/2020 17:15

There are a lot of new posters on Mumsnet tonight Hmm

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