So basically the government are removing themselves?

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So Boris has just tweeted what I presume is going to be announced later. To me it is the government removing the responsibility from themselves so that they can blame to public when a second wave occurs. All very vague and unhelpful!

Second wave? No, I think we're gearing up for a Mexican wave.

Also think the Scottish and Welsh governments are happier to fuck up their economies for longer are the English tax payer will end up shouldering the financial burden.

@squiglet111 lockdown is not lifted , they have already said that it is in place until 28th May .

I think a more accurate description is that lockdown remains in place but there are one or two small easings. The legal regulations restricting movement remain in place.

@olivehater Allow us to use our common sense. Stop treating us like children.

Your common sense may be different to someone else's common sense...

People who are moaning about not being able to see their friends are the ones acting like children imo

Most of us do make sensible decisions about managing our risks and the risks for the people around us from the consequences of our actions. But only most of us I'd question the people, 15 of them, who had a party for VE Day on my neighbours drive, 7 hrs drinking and ending up kissing each other goodbye at the end (I was just closing my bedroom window at that point as it was too noisy to sleep, I wasn't stalking them but was shocked to see the hugs and kisses.)

@olivehater yep !

*Those of us that understand the risks, that work with frontline staff, that appreciate key workers, that want our families to live, will take it just a little bit easier.

Those pricks that don’t give a fuck will carry on, and lets hope they and their friends and family that condone their behaviour are the next wave of casualties.*

But that's a load of rubbish. The people going out and about and back to work will be mainly young and healthy, the people who would rather get CV than lose their job/home/sanity, and they won't suffer badly from it. Also it seems like you've actually wished death on people and their families, which is a pretty shitty thing to do no matter how much you disagree with someone's choices.

Just to add 2 of the 15 merrymakers have been in hospital seriously ill in the last 12 months, one with a heart condition and in ICU for weeks. So yes catching Covid would be a very sensible plan.

My personal slogan has been and remains... 'Assume everything you touch is infectious. Assume everyone you encounter is infectious.'

Everything stated in the original image was what has been the case all along. Except “stay at home” was interpreted by many as “don’t go to work”/shut down workplaces even when social distancing is possible. The government clearly need as many of us as possible to be working.

Maybe add "Assume everyone is barking mad, one way or the other."

@Peaseblossom22

When was the 28th May mentioned (yes, I know it's 3 weeks) but during the briefing "another 3 weeks" wasn't mentioned. It was until Laura Kuenssberg asked if there was an extension that he said "nothing is changing" no mention of an extra 3 weeks. If I missed it though I apologise!

I think it was on Thursday , I apologise if I am wrong but I think it was in the Gov press releases that day

Serious question. If a vaccine is not possible and this virus is predominately killing older people, at what point do we accept that our lives may not be as long as we expected. Should we then just enjoy ourselves more in the new normal as opposed to clamouring for the past, which may not even happen.

@Peaseblossom22

No worries! I just remember sitting there going "Welllllll??? Is it another 3 weeks then?!"

I think a lot of people have decided they aren't locking down anymore so will do what they want. So no matter what the government say, some people will still do what they want. It will always be the rule followers that will stay locked down and the rule breakers that decide to carry on as normal. So regardless of what the government say, it won't make a difference?

The government can't really control this. Especially as people have already started to break lockdown. I suppose they are worried about riots and protests....

All that the government can control is schools which we all need to know about. Then employers can base their back to work plans on this.

Herd immunity Is the only outcome to stop the spread of this virus. We either get herd immunity through a vaccine (as we have for measles) or through catching it (as we did for Spanish flu). Seeing as a vaccine will take 12-18 months then my bet is that we will gain herd immunity through 65% of us catching it before a vaccine is ready.

The point is we can’t all catch it at the same time or we will overwhelm the NHS.

@user1471439240 it's a good question. Some of us have been in the position of dealing with a possible life limiting disease and do think like this already (pre covid I mean). I guess dealing with a pandemic is more than just about ourselves and our own wishes and about the collective good.

Those of us that understand the risks, that work with frontline staff, that appreciate key workers, that want our families to live, will take it just a little bit easier.

Those pricks that don’t give a fuck will carry on, and lets hope they and their friends and family that condone their behaviour are the next wave of casualties.

I suppose I'm one of the pricks who don't give a fuck. I care about people who have died or may die of covid19 in the abstract, the same way I cared about people I don't know dying in 2019; it's sad but I'm not willing to sacrifice my life for them indefinitely.

Most people will arrive at this conclusion sooner or later, it's just that the drama and (crucially) financial insulation surrounding covid19 and the lockdown have distorted people's pressure points.

To your point about the casualties - the majority are leading fairly atomised lives and can be more logically ring fenced than the general population. This is not perfect and there will be some covid19 leakage, but it can be kept to a minimum given the sheer scale of government spending on this effort.

I don't want to live in a nanny state. I am happy with the advice we are being given by the experts via Boris and his Ministers. After that it is up to us as adults to make our own decisions. I personally will continue to stay in isolation for a while longer, others may not.

At least wait until we hear what the PM has to say before starting the bitchfest.

people on the news already saying theyre confused its not clear is it over etc

this isnt goig to go down well

Since when has anything the gov/Boris has said is clear?

We will apparently hear words of wisdom from Boris in approx three minuts.

I'm pretty sure most of us don't need telling what to do to keep ourselves and our families safe after these last few weeks.

I think it's more about some members of the public who want to blame the government rather than the other way around.