Top British Corona scientist breaks lockdown rules: arrogance or knows something we dont?

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He is an expert on CV and broke social distancing rules.

Is he arrogant or knows something we dont?

The Scottish health minister did so earlier.

Why are they not sticking to this?

It’s not just the social distancing thing. She travelled across London for a reason that wasn’t work, health, exercise or food shopping related. Twice that we know of but it could have been more often. She then travelled back to her husband and 2 children.

It is galling that so many ordinary people are suffering and not seeing elderly parents, adult children and grandchildren in an effort to protect the many but members of the educated ‘elite’ can assume that they know best and the rules don’t apply to them.

So after all the headlines what the outcome we lose his input home goal really.
If he's in a single household the risk is minimal plus he's already had it.

@ToffeeYoghurt

• he has a solid history of exaggerating and overestimating
• his research has been instrumental in OTHER countries responses too not just the UK
• I am worried that we have not really seen that there is a benefit to lockdown. I am not saying there isn’t. But equally there is no evidence at all to say what lockdown has actually achieved. I am watching countries coming off lockdown very closely to see if they spike. Jury’s still out.

There is a difference between social distancing and hiding away. Sweden seems to understand that.

He should be aware of the debates that it’s not yet clear if having covid makes you immune & Whether he may spread asymptomatically.

We don’t even know if having it gives immunity do we? So why are people saying he didn’t put anyone at risk?

Also regardless of that, he was going against the advice he was imposing on the general public. That is hypocritical and wrong. Simply as that. Only on MN would propel defend him.

"You do realise that there are some people who want their 15 minutes of fame. He got it with his ludicrous modelling."
Why is his mathematical modelling ludicrous? We have the highest death rates in Europe. If we had not gone into lockdown we may well have had 500,000 deaths from Covid-19.

"Just don’t trust this guys intentions anymore which has discredited everything that comes out of his mouth."
He has been extremely stupid to not follow the advice he stressed we must all follow. I agree he had to resign because some other stupid people may now think it is acceptable to follow suit but I don't believe that automatically means we can't believe anything he says now.

He had to go purely because his mathematical modelling is probably accurate. If people now start to meet up with others for a shag for whatever reason, the infections will skyrocket.

Please everyone, continue to stick to the guidelines. He's been an idiot and a hypocrite. Don't compound his stupidity and prove his modelling to be correct.

OP, both he and the Scottish Health Minister do not know whether having CV confers immunity. This information is not being withheld from us. Why would it be? The Govt will be very happy if having the illness does then give us immunity. It will help the country get back to work. They will want to tell us very quickly if that proves to be the case. It hasn't been proven and just because immunity can be gained from having other illnesses, it does not automatically follow that it will be the case with this deadly virus.

I disagree with Lumisade and others who say he hasn't discredited himself. He has. He's a top scientist, advising, but not following the rules himself.

Same as Scottish advisor who repeatedly went to her second home.

Hopefully with him out of the way, we might get a bit of rationality added to the situation and end the lockdown immediately

He’s a classic arrogant academic. Anyone who has to deal with professors will know what I mean by that.

Right now it seems like everyone is just doing what they want. It angers me that so many of these people in the public eye aren’t following the rules, while us general plebs are made to feel guilty and worry about police enforcement if we’re not following them to the rule. Really makes me question who are actually the stupid ones here?! Just another example of them and us.

The Great British Public are really really naive. Don't you think a lot of people higher up have been doing this? They laugh at you lot and your mindless obedience to rules.

This man is immensely privileged. Mainly, because he has a history of grabbing media attention and earning money from grossly exaggerated figures.

He admits himself, that lots of variables can impact the figures, but still likes the attention grabbing worst case numbers.

His privilege means he got tested. His privilege means he knows there's a good chance he is immune. His privilege has had him on TV saying people must stick to the guidelines. He is using his privilege position to ignore the guidelines he is advocating for, for normal, everyday people.

If he was just some bloke living in a 2 bed semi, with a normal job he wouldn't have got tested. He wouldn't actually know whether he had it or not. He would be one of the people who were being told, they are killing people by mixing households.

He has used his privilege to break the guidelines. Whilst telling those less privileged that they need to follow them to save lives.

And being in the bloody media and breaking them, knowing that it will grab attention is fucking stupid.

I think there's an inbuilt expectation that everyone will break the lockdown in some small way. So there's a toleration of that as long as it's followed to the greater extent.

The Great British Public are really really naive. Don't you think a lot of people higher up have been doing this? They laugh at you lot and your mindless obedience to rules.

Yes, of course they are.

I generally stick to the guidlines. I am wfh, so don't go out that much. I do exercise and weekends, I try not to go out because the only places open are supermarkets and I am not queing in that shit.

I am not someone who is scared of breaking the guidlines or curtain twitches at people that might be breaking the guidelines.

But I am also not stupid enough to be a vocal advocate of the guidelines, tell people they must stick to it and then break them myself.

This case just smacks of the 'higher ups' and their 'plebs must follow rules that don't apply to us'

Bool It's debatable whether Sweden has done so well. Certainly they have a worse death rate than their Scandinavian neighbours.

Sweden has 50% of the population living in single person households. More spaced out. Much easier to socially distance. They also have a better funded healthcare system than us.

It's perhaps also the case people there have less need of a lockdown. Look at all the posts we'd had over the past month, whining and foot stamping over our half hearted lockdown. Too many here (Prof Ferguson included) won't willingly adhere to social distancing. Hence the need for lockdown.

Seriously. Do people really need a mathematical model for very basic common sense??

The concept of contagion and how to reduce the spread of a highly infectious disease is extremely simple.

How about just saying what you're getting at, OP? Are you suggesting that he knows something that would indicate that lockdown isn't needed? If that's what you think then say so.

Personally my take would be that he's just stupid, randy, and thinking with his cock.

He is an arrogant idiot with a contemptuous disregard for the laws he himself helped put into place and brings the government, scientific community and himself into disrepute

The Great British Public are really really naive. Don't you think a lot of people higher up have been doing this? They laugh at you lot and your mindless obedience to rules.

Unlike the Great Sophisticated Poster with her fierceLay intelligent independent thinking

Arrogant arsehole who like many experts, thing they are above their own advice. It is just for us little people.

This has actually made me think, screw it, I'm done with this lock down. Let us out. I don't believe or trust these people any more.

Wait, wasn't the complaint that people weren't following the rules? Or was that last week? I need a conspiracy theory flow chart.

This man is a criminal.

He must be arrested and charged along with the rest of his co conspirators.

End of.

a character like his tries for his 15 mins of fame

He has been famous for years.

Professor Lockdown can't keep his cock down.

This is just another thing to add to the list of things to discredit him, the man is made of Teflon.

His penis ruled his brain. Same old story.

The hypocrisy. I've not seen my mother or father in months now. My whole family isolated religiously for 14 days when I had a cough and sore throat and even afterwards we only went for walks.