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Worried About Coronavirus- thread 39

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CrunchyCarrot · 05/05/2020 21:36

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bluefoxmug · 18/05/2020 07:05

www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31131-4/fulltext?dgcid=raven_jbs_etoc_email

Few could have imagined that hypertension and its treatment with inhibitors of the renin–angiotensin–aldosterone system (RAAS) would become a hot topic during the global COVID-19 pandemic. Two factors have contributed to this: first, the observation that hypertension is one of the most common comorbidities associated with severe cases of COVID-19 in patients who have been admitted to hospital and their risk of death;
and second, that like the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV), SARS-CoV-2 infects cells via specific binding to angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2), which is ubiquitously expressed in the lung and other tissues.

bluefoxmug · 18/05/2020 12:24

berlin charite study & advice for orchestras

ajandjjmum · 18/05/2020 15:02

bluefoxmug - I'm obviously thick - couldn't understand the Lancet article. So are ACE inhibitors a problem or not? Thank you.

bluefoxmug · 18/05/2020 15:20

there was a concern that hypertension medication worsens the health outcome/deathrate of covid-19.

it turns out that this seems to not be the case.
not the medication, but the co-morbidities (high blood pressure, obesity, diabetes and others) are the risk factor.

HeIenaDove · 18/05/2020 15:54

Scaffolding has started being re erected round the flats so they can do the roof renewal. Note renewal not repair so it could wait until next year. But im guessing as the HA has paid for it ............they want what theyve paid for.

HeIenaDove · 18/05/2020 16:45

twitter.com/1917paul/status/1262336558780293120?s=20

Paul Kershaw
@1917paul
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4h
Notting Hill Genesis at it again! Last week we heard they were hiking rent for NHS workers from June 1st & telling them to get out or pay. Giant housing associations like them increasingly run as profit seeking property empires. #socialhousing #ukhousing #COVID19
@HAWRNet

twitter.com/GenesisHAaction/status/1262334852134813697?s=20

Genesis Residents
@GenesisHAaction
Replying to
@1917paul
and
@HAWRNet
Residents of #NHG received emails today requesting arrears be paid within 7 days despite loss of incomes etc #COVID19 #socialhousing

HeIenaDove · 18/05/2020 17:29

www.standard.co.uk/news/foodforlondon/food-for-london-now-faces-nicolette-hackney-youth-club-felix-project-a4440436.html

Food For London Now faces: 'Elderly at-risk people are slipping through the net'
Nicolette Nixon from Gascoyne and Morningside Youth Club shares her story

With our sister title The Independent, we are getting food to those who need it: children, families, the homeless and NHS workers. Every £30 donated will deliver 165 meals to the most vulnerable hit by the crisis. You can donate to the Food For London Now appeal HERE.

An elderly man who was brought to tears when the Hackney Youth Club showed up on his doorstep with a food delivery, now dresses up in a suit in anticipation of their weekly arrivals.

The director of Gascoyne and Morningside Youth Club (GAMSYC) Nicolette Nixon, said the elderly man is just one example of how important the food initiative by the youth club using deliveries from The Felix Project are to vulnerable people in Hackney.

Nicolette set up the youth club 20 years ago because she saw that there was little else for young people to do on the Gascoyne and Morningside estates.

The club is all about "local people supporting local people" and last summer they had a record 236 kids turn up for the sessions over six weeks.

Nicolette shares how the Evening Standard's Food For London Now appeal partner, The Felix Project, has helped the youth club volunteers deliver food to those who need it most during the coronavirus lockdown.

How and why did you get involved with the Felix Project?

"I run a youth club in Hackney in what is quite a poor ward in a poor borough. We have around 50 to 60 children at each session in Gascoyne and Morningside.

We have a big focus on physical activities and healthy eating. We also have our own business, a youth social enterprise where the kids make their own organic bath products and sell them at Hackney market.

The Felix Project offered us support totally out of the blue last year. They had surplus food because they weren't delivering to schools during the holiday."

How have you seen demand change over the past six weeks?

How have you seen demand change over the past six weeks?

"We had done some consultation on the estate and people said they wanted more community activities.

Two weeks before the lockdown, The Felix Project phoned me and said we could have a weekly delivery - which has been an absolute Godsend.

It means that we're now giving food to residents to keep them going.

READ MORE
Food For London faces: 'Crisis is a wake-up call for us to do more'
We work with the Tenants' Association and so we just put a notice asking if anyone needed help. We now deliver to about 20 households in Morningside and that
includes, elderly people and families - quite at-risk people.

On the Gascoyne estate we deliver to about 25 households.

What I've seen is that there are loads of elderly people who are slipping through the net.

Everyone is claiming there isn't enough technology, but elderly people in Hackney have to fill in forms online for the Government to get food parcels, and if they haven't got access to computers then they can't do this."

Is there a single incident or moment or person who has helped who you think embodies what you have been trying to achieve?

"We're dealing with an elderly guy who has had two heart attacks and strokes, and he wasn't getting any help.

Luckily he saw our notice and asked us if we could buy some food for him. It happened to be on the day that we were getting our food delivery in and we've been going to him ever since.

I don't know what would have happened to him because he said he'd phoned three or four different places and each one had said they couldn't help.

The man was near tears when we made the first delivery. We were the first people to say to him that we could provide food.

It's quite funny because I've noticed he's started to put a suit on and he gets dressed up for the deliveries. He's brilliant.

He also referred a friend who has got terminal cancer and now we're helping him too. Those are just two examples of vulnerable people who have slipped through the net

I don't know what they would have done without these food supplies."

You're obviously doing a fantastic job but how much more is needed to help those in need?

"I think people are proud and I think there needs to be more flexibility with information sharing.

To say we can't give you information on people because they need to apply online - when people don't have access to online services - it's absolutely ridiculous.

I think many of the vulnerable people are suffering from loneliness too - that's a big problem. I know when we go round to some households it's hard to get away because they love to chat, which of course isn't a problem for us

We've got some young people who we've brought in as volunteers and they're helping with the deliveries. It's quite humbling for them to see how grateful people are for just a little bit of food."

What would you say to anyone who is thinking of donating to the Food For London Now appeal?

"I would just say do it. After this is over they're going to be needing more than they are now because people are going to lose their jobs

People are scared to leave their homes and I think there are a lot of at-risk people who slip through the net.

So I think people should give as much as they can. We would have people going hungry if it wasn't for The Felix project.

ToffeeYoghurt · 18/05/2020 17:31

Why couldn't there have been rent holidays, just as there were mortgage holidays?
Given the exceptional circumstances.

We desperately need a massive council housing build. Like happened post WW2.

ToffeeYoghurt · 18/05/2020 17:36

children, families, the homeless and NHS workers.
It's s brilliant thing to do but what worries me is I noticed disabled people appear to have been left out. As happens all too often.

They're already struggling more than many. Dealing with the disability and the everyday issues arising from that - and the financial difficulties.

Apparently they need less to live on than those affected by Covid. For some strange unknown reason the government has failed to explain. Many are meant to live on under £74 a week. A hard task often impossible to achieve.

HeIenaDove · 18/05/2020 17:45

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/top-tory-refuses-rule-out-22043587?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Top Tory refuses to rule out 'penalising' teachers or councils who keep schools shut
Cabinet minister Oliver Dowden repeatedly refused to rule out "penalising" councils, school leaders or teachers who defy orders to go back on June 1

HeIenaDove · 18/05/2020 17:48

i had a horrible feeling at least some of the HAs would do that Toffee.

ToffeeYoghurt · 18/05/2020 18:07

It's not in the interests of social housing to evict? At least not families. Councils have an obligation to house them. I'm aware HA aren't council properties and they're private organisations but certainly the council owned homes. I expect the councils will be desperately doing all they can to sort this out. Probably more discretionary payments and the like. Discussions with the HA, possibly organising direct payments and working out repayment plans. It will be more costly to rehouse all those families. Single people might be less protected perhaps.

HeIenaDove · 18/05/2020 18:23

Another report on care homes will be on Channel 4 news tonight.

twitter.com/AyshahTull/status/1262431216596324358?s=20

Humphriescushion · 19/05/2020 08:22

Just saw something that struck a chord with me, sir david king ( scientist) mused that it could appear if the government policy is to manage the virus not try and supress it, i.e keep it at a level that is mangeable. This is making sense to me. ( it was on gmb - i know, i know!)

NoWordForFluffy · 19/05/2020 08:31

Haven't they said that this is their plan all along though? Or implied it?

Humphriescushion · 19/05/2020 08:56

Maybe @ noword, think that may have been the policy inially but i thought it had changed now. Maybe not.

thesunwillout · 19/05/2020 17:06

Where is our Prime minister?

ToffeeYoghurt · 19/05/2020 17:13

Perhaps he's gone on a day trip to the beach...

I noticed the still quite empty, very spaced out, house of commons the other day. If they want all of us back to normal (without the same precautionary measures other countries took) then it's about time they got back to work too. That means in person. Lead by example. No virtual meetings. They can get themselves on the tube and into the commons. And no prophylactic drugs for them either. Not when it's not available to Joe public.

Cherrypi · 19/05/2020 17:30

Probably desperately practising for pmqs tomorrow so he doesn't look so bad this week.

Jinx2020 · 19/05/2020 17:37

Frosty press conference - this Angela McLean is being very abrupt!

Keepdistance · 19/05/2020 17:47

I think they are letting it run.
As otherwise why
No masks
No ppe for teachers

But how bad this will be depends on our actual % immune. If its 25% then x4 to x2 so 100k to 200k.
If it's only 5% like italy or spain etc!

Several of the footballers and crew have tested positive. About 0.8% (and there could be a false negatives too).

Seems crazy money spent by clubs on that but not money spent weekly testing drs and nurses routinely.

Also that would be the % positive and asymptomatic...

ajandjjmum · 19/05/2020 19:09

Boris is probably being briefed and trying to stay on top of the latest Brexit talks as well as deal with a pandemic. Think he's got his hands full at the moment.

ToffeeYoghurt · 19/05/2020 19:15

I wish you were wrong keep but I suspect you're right. How shocking.

Does anyone have an idea on how things are going in countries experiencing new increases in cases? China, Germany, France, for example. I'm wondering whether they're still seeing a high death rate or if perhaps more people are surviving. Possibly being treated early.

Humphriescushion · 19/05/2020 20:05

To early to say for France @ toffee. A few clusters but nothing major yet.