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Worried About Coronavirus- thread 39

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CrunchyCarrot · 05/05/2020 21:36

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HeIenaDove · 14/05/2020 19:48

NZ really pulled out all the stops

HeIenaDove · 14/05/2020 19:49

And WTF was todays Daily Briefing all about. It was like listening to a Party Political Broadcast.

SummerSazz · 14/05/2020 19:52

I'm no Boris fan but NZ politicians are far higher paid than in the UK

mrshoho · 14/05/2020 21:28

I find myself becoming infuriated watching the daily briefings. The way Grant Shapps reeled off those dreadful stats as though he's proud of the number of new infections and hospital patients. When he proudly states that inpatient numbers have reduced by 14% in the last week I'm screaming yes because most of them have died!

One positive is the antibody test but even then it is still unknown if and for how long the antibodies will provide immunity.

HeIenaDove · 14/05/2020 22:23

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/the-numbers-streets-going-rocket-18254318

The numbers on the streets are going to rocket': Homeless people put up in hotels amid pandemic to be kicked out as government quietly scraps scheme
EXCLUSIVE: The ‘Everyone In’ policy, launched by the government in March, has been wound up

HeIenaDove · 14/05/2020 22:31

@mrshoho I gave up and went out to the kitchen to make a coffee while he was on but he was still wittering away when i got back.

HeIenaDove · 14/05/2020 22:37

The report on care workers from Channel 4 news earlier.

www.channel4.com/news/charities-demand-care-home-workers-are-paid-a-living-wage

StrawberryJam200 · 14/05/2020 22:37

@HeIenaDove that's too dreadful, kicking the homeless out onto the streets again!

RedToothBrush · 14/05/2020 22:47

Johnson was 17 and a half stone when he caught coronavirus. That's a bmi of 36.

Now he's on a mission to lose weight as that's why he thinks he got it so bad.

So expect Jamie Oliver to be signed up in a government pr campaign as the nation embarks on a nation wide government sanctioned diet...

Worried About Coronavirus- thread 39
HeIenaDove · 14/05/2020 22:55

So get ready for more denigration of the overweight people who also happen to be poor.

He can start by ensuring care workers are paid more money so they are not living in one room and sharing kitchens (like the one in the Channel 4 news report tonight) so they can have the money and the time to cook healthy meals.

ToffeeYoghurt · 15/05/2020 00:09

As long as he tackles the true causes of obesity it's not a bad idea.

Ensuring people have proper housing with access to proper cooking facilities and storage.

Enough money (be it through employment, pension, or benefits) to afford healthy fresh food (no food banks).

An overhauled NHS so people are no longer (as they were pre pandemic) left waiting months on end for treatment (suffering prolonged mobility issues as a consequence).

Also good mental health provision including help and support for comfort eating, and looking again at the pros and cons of the different mental health drugs.

In some cases, certainly when its long-term use, it's perhaps preferable to prescribe the out of fashion benzodiazepines rather than the modern anti depressants that often cause weight gain.

Oh and we'd need to stop dismissing patients symptoms, especially women, as mental health or hormones. I've seen several posters talk about this sort of experience when they had undiagnosed thyroid conditions (which can lead to weight gain).

Boris- over to you.

ToffeeYoghurt · 15/05/2020 00:11

And why are homeless people being thrown back onto the streets? How uncivilised is our society? The hotels and holiday parks aren't exactly open for normal business. The space is available.

HeIenaDove · 15/05/2020 00:22

Brilliant points Toffee.

bluefoxmug · 15/05/2020 10:16

www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-ema-vaccine/coronavirus-vaccine-possible-in-about-a-year-says-eu-agency-idUSKBN22Q19S

A vaccine to counter the new coronavirus could be approved in about a year in an “optimistic” scenario, a agency which approves medicines for the European Union said on Thursday.

'approved' doesn't necessarily translate into 'ready for mass vaccination' though.

ToffeeYoghurt · 15/05/2020 17:46

I'm was a little bit concerned to read today about apparent fights over the vaccine. Between competing countries and drugs companies.

So much for working together. If ever there was a time that's needed it's now.

Meanwhile, now that the UK appears to have finally caught up with stats available in February, are diabetics finally going to be added to the shielding list? Given they're the most clinically vulnerable.

Keepdistance · 15/05/2020 18:03

8 % of people diabetic.
Also they are supposed to have been SD. So i guess when the deaths are from matters. And where eg care homes.
I do think priority for furlough should be by age and vulnerable.
Women with pcos have insulin resistance to.
1m undiagnosed diabetics.

Keepdistance · 15/05/2020 18:07

I am just praying that they dont find people get a worse reaction the second time they get it. And also thst doesnt happen with the vax.

HeIenaDove · 16/05/2020 00:29

metro.co.uk/2020/05/15/landlord-hikes-rent-nhs-workers-tells-move-dont-accept-12703584/?ito=social&fbclid=IwAR2t8ctzLIia7E1yRcJiKJrxr-JXsLFL4U0PbqLiwW9YK7_HCjOaxoCnuE4?ito=cbshare#metro-comments-container

Landlord hikes rent for NHS workers and tells them to move out if they don’t accept it.

"Frontline workers living in discounted homes feel ‘unappreciated’ after their housing association said it is raising the rent in less than a month, despite the coronavirus lockdown. Residents at the block of flats in Brixton, south London, feel like they’ve been put in a tight spot by Notting Hill Genesis, who have told them to sign the agreement or move out by June 1. While the Government has made moves to re-open Britain’s housing market, many are still worried about the practicalities of finding a new place as they work harder than ever through the Covid-19 crisis. Sexual health adviser Lucy Barrow, 34, shares a one bedroom flat with her furloughed husband and four-year-old daughter. She says the family can just about afford £860 per month, but she’s worried about falling into debt after being asked to pay an extra £90. She told Metro.co.uk: ‘As you can imagine trying to find a property right now is difficult. Me trying to get time off to look at properties or even to get a removal van to our road is not possible. Everybody’s rent is going up on June 1, it’s the middle of lockdown, what are we supposed to do? You either sign it or you have to leave with nowhere to go
Lucy, who works at an NHS clinic in Southwark, central London, said tenants in her block are charged 80% of the area’s market rent as part of an initiative to help emergency workers live in more pricey parts of the capital. The letter from Notting Hill Genesis was dated May 5, but the mum-of-one says she only received it on Wednesday. Visit our live blog for the latest updates: Coronavirus news live Tenants at Brixton Water Lane are set to be charged an extra £120 a month for a two bedroom flat and £150 for a three bedroom property. The Housing Association say they are upping the rent in line with the area’s increased prices.
Lucy said: ‘It’s really unfair at this time that we are stressed and they haven’t even thought “maybe this could wait a month”. My husband is furloughed at the moment so we are budgeting our money. ‘You know what we are going through right now, just having to be in work and having to cope with everything that’s happening and then you just throw this at us. We’ve got a daughter, she’s four, we do want to consider looking at bigger properties, we are all in a one bedroom flat as that’s all we can afford right now. ‘The timing of it is inconsiderate. It feels like we are not being appreciated for the work we are doing as key workers, I feel like it could have been delayed for a couple of months.’ However Notting Hill Genesis does encourage tenants who worry about covering their rent to speak to their housing officer. Its letter says: ‘We can sign post you to a variety of agencies that can assist you with budgeting, debt and financial advice as well as referring you to an in house Welfare Benefits Advisor

We know that many residents will be struggling financially as a result of the current crisis and worrying about how to make ends meet. We want to assure you that we will not be taking tenancy enforcement action if your arrears have escalated due to the impact of Covid-19. ‘If you are not covering your rent we need you to get in touch so that we can understand your circumstances and set up an affordable payment arrangement.’ But Lucy, who was born and raised in Brixton, still has concerns about how falling into arrears could affect her family’s future. She added: ‘It’s just not good for your credit in terms of finding somewhere in the future.’ A Notting Hill Genesis spokesperson told Metro.co.uk: The properties at Brixton Water Lane are intermediate market rent (IMR) homes let at 80% of market rates, rather than being part of our social housing stock"

ToffeeYoghurt · 16/05/2020 01:07

The wealthier residents of these areas should be concerned. It's in their interests that HCP (and others like carers) can afford to live there.

How will allowing evictions to go ahead help with don't use public transport unnecessarily message? Many don't drive and will have to put themselves and others at risk by traipsing around looking for a home.

EmeraldShamrock · 16/05/2020 10:35

Next month we'll be able to tell if the goverments gamble paid off.
The stakes unfortunately are human lives.
It is tragic.

BigChocFrenzy · 16/05/2020 11:16

FT:Hancock claim of ‘protective ring’ round care homes questioned

https://www.ft.com/content/6afb06d6-abd6-4281-ac16-74f500f096d0

Prof Martin Green, chief executive of Care England, which represents care homes, said he wanted to “
see the evidence of what exactly the protective ring consists”.

“Ask [Mr Hancock’s] office when exactly they instituted this protective ring...

Ask them why, if in February the government was prioritising care homes, we did not see the statistics on deaths?

“Why we had our PPE distribution networks disrupted to send things to the NHS
[and] why we had our primary care support withdrawn from many care homes?

“Ask them why they did not prioritise care homes for testing.

If there was a protective ring initiated by the government, it did not feel like that for the people who were living and working in care homes.”

BigChocFrenzy · 16/05/2020 11:18

There'd be greater confidence about more workers and pupils returning,
if there hadn't been such gross incompetence - and dishonesty - that cost many thousands of lives in care homes

mrshoho · 16/05/2020 11:52

I think as well it's the disparity in guidance. On the one hand we're told we can now meet one other person at a time, but outside and at 2 metre distance (and that police will be out enforcing this rule). On the other hand teachers and parents are being told it's completely safe to have an indoor room with 15 young children all mixing together for a long period. You can see why folks may wonder why! Schools are nothing like a normal work place where adults can in the main keep to the social distancing.

HeIenaDove · 16/05/2020 15:51

Jennie Hockey
@Hockster91
·
May 15
Replying to
@peterkyle

@BorisJohnson
and
@MattHancock
We're being asked to choose a care home for my grandad to be discharged from an NHS assessment centre but the Covid status of potential care homes is 'confidential', feels like risking his life

twitter.com/Hockster91/status/1261069981858627585?s=20