Do you think covid started in a wet market?

[sleepyhorse]

.....Or accidentally released from a laboratory?

I'm so bloody behind the times with all this and thought conspiracy theories were a bit nuts but reading your thread makes me think twice. Please can someone tell me what the actual theory is? So they were doing research in the same area and a member of staff may have taken it home or something?

I even read one piece that said there was a shoot out between Americans and Chinese in the wet market and that the vial containing the novel Coronavirus was accidentally dropped there 🙄

Weird that you mention this too. My boyfriend told me this and I laughed!

I think wet market but maybe I am naive.

Many bats are infected with Covid. For some reason, their immune systems can handle the virus. Now the problem is that other predators eat bats! (Like snakes).

Chinese and other south East Asian counties eat snakes amongst other animals that consume bats. One dish in particular which is very common in said counties is "5 Snake Soup".
A lot of the population of Wuhan, (where the Covid 19 was first detected), eat 5 snake soup and there is. Very high possibility that covid19 was passed from Bat, to a secondary animal such as a Snake, to humans....so do your homework people..Bless

Neither

This is a very interesting short YouTube video about how viruses are transferred between animals and the wet markets.

Wet market is a literal translation of a Chinese market. Its better translation is fresh food. However the conditions can be very poor for both the animals and the humans using them. The alleged link to bats was actually photographed in Indonesia a couple of years ago. I'll side with the natural mutation idea, with a slight second being lab escape, or it could be a combination of the two.

Accidental lab release

Have not RTFT but there's this:

Certainly not lab on purpose or lab accidental.

Wet markets to a degree....

More and more epidemiologists and scient people are saying the virus could have been around humans for years until a trigger mutate it making it extremely contagious to human to human transmission. Pretty much like HIV.

It's too early to know much about the virus - beware of political manipulation.

People, please do your homework!

Those who do not believe this theory:
World Health Organisation
Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies
American CIA / Secret Service
US National Intelligence
Five Eyes Intelligence (UK, US, NZ, Aus, Can)
Royal United Services Institute
The Crick Institute

Those who believe this theory:
Donald Trump

Coronavirus is a bog standard virus that’s been around forever. My bloody cats had it 30 years ago!

It’s mutated into humans several times already, nearly causing pandemics. This is just another, albeit more serious, mutation.

As the population increases and people live packed together in cities we’ll see more viruses able to mutate quickly.

My money is still on antibiotic resistance doing real damage in the future though.

It's all about the money....
Economist Exposes China & World Health Organization
m.youtube.com/watch?v=c47KVyz0Gsg

Many bats are infected with Covid.

Covid is the disease.
Bats are infected with coronaviruses.

I think most people prefer to believe in conspiracy theories or release from a lab than just nature, because they give a sense of control and someone or something to blame.
That's how religion was born.

Sadly, most catastrophes just happen. They're either natural and random, or result from a series of small mistakes that result in huge consequences.

And Trump needs a scapegoat for his disastrous handling of this crisis.

How can we possibly know? None of us have any access to actual evidence, so it is simply speculation based on which media reports you prefer.

I don't understand the reasoning behind the conspiracy theory of there coincidentally being a lab in Wuhan.

Why is it considered unusual that there was a lab in this huge city?

Wuhan is one of the largest cities in China,
pop 10 million . China has had these types of outbreaks and cross species viruses for decades.

Wouldn't it be unusual if there WASN'T a lab studying bats and viruses in one of the largest cities in China?

The articles on the sequence analyses of the virus are open access.

Sadly, most catastrophes just happen. They're either natural and random, or result from a series of small mistakes that result in huge consequences.

Which is exactly what a scientist walking it out of the lab on their person (accidentally) is. A random mistake.

I think what people are really scared of is that this could happen though sheer carelessness and ineptitude - and what else is in those labs. smallpox

...I believe the virus started in the Wuhan wet market

Flaxmeadow

It's the only BS4 in China and this happened up the road. Yeah, people are asking. 🤷‍♀️

Not sure, but it's heartbreaking to know markets like those exist.

It's the only BS4 in China and this happened up the road. Yeah, people are asking.

I still dont understand why it's a thing big though

Wuhan is one of the largest and most modern cities in China. Why is it a problem that the bat virus was being studied there

It’s not a problem, but it’s pretty suspect when it’s so close and they were studying bat virus mutations in that specific lab just miles from the apparent first case

Of course we can't know if the virus had been in the lab or not.
What we do know is that it's not sufficiently similar to any viral sequence that was published from that lab.
Chinese researchers are very pressured to publish. I would suspect that if a new virus had been detected in the lab and sequenced, the paper would have been submitted very soon.
So, if it was from the lab, it must have been something very recent.
It could even have come from people researching it in the field, I.e. from nature, but not directly from the lab.

Thus, I don't think the evidence points to research being done on the virus and then it escaping.

The most likely scenario, IMO, that can involve the lab is not much different from random people handling animals infected with this virus.