AIBU to think in the future we will look back on this and think this was such a big overreaction?

[JUSTJUDY10101]

Preparing myself to get flamed for this.
Isn't it true that the majority of us will get mild symptoms and not even notice we really had it?
Yes hundreds of people are dying a day from it and yes they are not just numbers, but are they dying 'of' it or 'with' it?

People.die everyday, why have we locked down for this but we never did for the swine flu?

Is it worth ruining the economy for?

I just want other thoughts incase i'm just being stupid

@Easilyanxious Of course no countries can be directly compared, that is impossible.

I'm pretty sure if people had their loved ones dying, they'd have the app downloaded in seconds.

There's no app in Korea as far as I know, they trace people's credit cards and then send out a text so people who have been in the same area can check if they went to the same shops/restaurants.

Probably wouldn't work in the UK either because people are weirdly obsessed with privacy but also bizarrely apathetic when it comes to holding the government to account.

Also the Who were saying no need for travel bans early on in this

@Easilyanxious I think what we've learnt from this is that the WHO is right up China's arse and can't really be trusted.

@CrimeAndMumishment yes I think your right with Korea they use technology to trace be it credit cards or whatever but it is strange in this county why so many are obsessed with the government not knowing what they are doing , if having an app on my phone would help save lives and get the economy also going etc it's a no brainier and I'm sure my trip to b & m isn't going to excite the government too much. S korea I believe learnt a lot from outbreaks of SARS or similar and as it never really came here or to Europe as badly I think most thought this would be the same the who didn't advise travel bans early on
We can learn from these countries going forward though
Hindsight is a great thing

All in all though I would say I would prefer we were over cautious going forward and if we look back and realise we didn't need to do some things it's better than looking back and realising we could of done more .

I am in Ireland but have lived in the UK . After speaking to my GP after a recent visit I am thankful that I am not living there. She reckoned if we were living in the UK, we’d have got it. Westminster put the economy first the way whereas our government followed the German route. The GP also told me that I don’t want to get Covid-19. Their patients with it are between 30 and 65 and are not always showing typical symptoms
Some have underlying health conditions some don’t have any other health problems. .
Generally governments had since January to get their act together and a lot of them, including Ireland, ignored the warnings. This is nothing like the flu it is much worse and you don’t know how your body will react to it.

It's a bit like everyone says that the year 2000 computer problem was an overreaction.

It was a non event because companies spent millions on people like me to fix it.

We weren't swamped by Corona virus because we locked down. A little late for my liking, but not too late.

We may have to do it again. Possibly not as harshly. But this isn't over till the fat lady pumps a vaccine into your arm.

In Australia we locked down fast and the government launched immediate stimulus and help payments. We’ve managed to get to the point we can start relaxing our lockdown now already because it’s been almost eradicated without many deaths.

I have a small business and completely understand the fear of it damaging the economy but personally, I have 5 older relatives with chest issues. None of them likeLy to die for many years though. Had they caught covid I think there is a good chance at least one would have died. Maybe all of them.

Is my mum or dad not worth a bit of econ9mic damage? Is yours? Each of those tens of thousands of people who would die if you relax measures is someone’s important person. Each of them deserves the chance to live out their natural days.

Mental health is not as bad as you think in places where we know we have eradicated this virus and will be let out soon. Much more horrifying and bleak to see your friends and relatives sick and dying or be watching the figures rise.

nope, you are wrong op.
these are definitely excess deaths, or dont you read the statistics?
people are not expendable

I think that mental health issues for individuals would be far worse with the loss of people they know and love. The death of both of my parents within a small number of years nearly broke me. Imagine losing a grandparent and a parent and a couple of friends and a colleague. I think that could well have been the scenario without lockdown and still could be. Perhaps not for me as my parents and grandparents are gone, but even the loss of friends/ acquaintances/ distant relatives would be very upsetting and detrimental to mental health.

Most likely

I highly recommend "This Podcast Will Kill You", the Anatomy of a Pandemic episode on Control. It covers this well; essentially, if you think we overreacted, then great - our measures helped and a lot less people died than would have if we had not acted.

Don't lose sight of the fact that testing levels were slow to increase. I have friends (including NHS staff) who were sick with Covid-19 symptoms, but who weren't enough to need hospital admission. They aren't counted in the number of cases (these are healthy 20/30-somethings who didn't need inpatient care, but who were laid up in bed for 1-2 weeks, with a similar period of recovery time afterwards).

essentially, if you think we overreacted, then great - our measures helped and a lot less people died than would have if we had not acted.

Yes this, the empty nightingale is a GOOD thing.

Op, I presume you don't know anyone that has been seriously ill or died from it?

Do you really think with amount of money spent on all of this the government would be doing if they didn't think they had too?

@JUSTJUDY10101
I agree with you. The difference between this and the 1968 flu pandemic is social media and internet, causing mass panic.

If a single person died who didn't need to then we didn't overreact. The deaths in nursing homes are a horrific sign that we did not react enough.

YANBU OP, I know 8 people who have had it confirmed and they said it was like a cold, none hospitalised/died.

I think people are fed up too because they’re following the rules, not seeing their family etc yet the government kept allowing flights into the U.K. without mandatory quarantine until the other day. What’s the point in the strict rules if others are allowed to just get off a plane and do whatever they like

Not sure why people are being so aggressive with the OP, lets not also forget that these deaths are WITH corona not necessarily caused by.

Everyone is responding, obviously, before we have experienced the post Covid lifestyle. Imagine unemployed soaring to 40% of the working population. Children learning online as schools can't afford the full number of teachers . Many universities closing so few places and a bun fight to get them . Who knows how it will be. Might think differently then.

I agree

YANBU massive over reaction and hysteria. Look at the endless threads about people saying they won't let kids go back to school, teachers saying they will get themselves 'signed off with stress' hardly rational behaviour

What is it with mumsnet and not being able to have differing opinions but instead automatically jump down someone's throat who thinks something differently? You can disagree with someone and be nice with it

People are reacting to your comments because there have been eleventy billion threads about it already.

It's like when someone says they don't want to watch a film, but come in at the last 25 minutes and expect a full run down on what's happened & what everyone thinks.

These points have been discussed a LOT & people are running out of the enthusiasm to explain YET AGAIN why it wasn't an over reaction.🙄

Try educating yourself, rather than expecting to be spoon fed ...it's all at your finger tips.

Probably, everything looks different some years down the line. However its the unknown, the vaccines might not work, people die from the seaononal flu, yes, but every year there a vaccine, I know lots of people who dont have it, and have never caught flu. Very fit and healthy in my 40s, I got it then pneumonia, was ill 3 months, couldnt believe it.Have never smoked, used to run 5 miles day, then, 4 kids, worked full time (and some) nights. I know 2 people previously fit, healthy, not in any vulnerable groups, one an ex colleague (NHS) both in ITU, ventilated, one for a month, very seriously ill, with now, complications from the virus. Ecomony you can recover from, death, no you cant. I have a DGS and DD who are in the at risk groups, 2 disabled sons, one I am carer for, I worry terrible about them.WHO is a joke, as is PHE

I think this question will be on school history exams in years to come.

I'm not in the UK. We have far fewer deaths where I am and people are asking the same question.

I agree it was always better to be safer than sorry but the longer lockdown continues, the more people risk mental health problems, failing businesses, rise in domestic abuse and suicides.

The last recession where I live was very bad. So many people lost family businesses, for example, and suicide went through the roof.

I personally get an annoyed about people criticising their governments. They are damned whatever they do.

Stay safe UK.

I don't think it was an overreaction. Lockdown is the only option in the absence of widespread testing, tracing, and isolation.

If you look at the Asian countries who are far closer to China and should have been overrun by COVID, they haven't been, despite having generally shorter and/or less restrictive lockdown policies. That's because they have a full protocol of identifying who has the virus, and then segregating them and their close contacts from the rest of the population.

The UK either didn't want to or could not establish this system. So if you don't know who has CV, let alone where they are, if there are clusters based around certain locations or events - well lockdown is your only option then. The problem is, how do you end lockdown if you still don't have testing/tracing/isolation? This is the UK's issue. I think the US is in the same situation.

Oh, how ignorance is bliss OP