Coronaphobia - people just have to get a grip

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I'm really worried that irrational fears are going to absolutely ruin the country as well as putting people at massive risk of dying from other things or developing mental health. And God knows what parents with it will do to their dc's mental health and development (keeping dc off school until there's a vaccination etc.)

What Greysparkles says. DD aged 8 with ASD. Weighing up risk of long-term, irretrievable damage to mental health risk vs. teensy chance of catching COVID.

It's always so sad hearing how children are being affected by the pandemic. I felt so awful for this poor little kid I read about yesterday. Their mother just died from Covid and the child has had to go into foster care. So sad. Great use or passive aggressiveness @ToffeeYoghurt

The following (and there are many more) are very sad too.
nationalfile.com/uk-teenager-commits-suicide-over-coronavirus-self-isolation-fears/

Is your link from this National File OP?

I have heard a lot of the young women here, saying that they now have mental health problems because of the situation now. Saying how bad it is for them, and their young children,and all the rest etc..Some of them don't seem to have the mental ability to get a grip as the saying goes. If you talk to some older people, you may find that oldies don't go all to pieces when a catastrophe, or something horrible occurs.

I have the same concern OP.

All I can do is take advantage as I need work.

I agree with you 100% OP.

We need to get a grip and get some normality back.

For what its worth, I was at work today and the traffic was horrendous for the first time since lockdown started. People want to get back to normal.

So, because you think mental health is important, people who have anxieties should just get a grip 🤔

Every one has mental health, it isnt something you can develop. Do you mean poor mental health?

I'll stick with the government advice on this one thanks hen.

I think the people still in denial about the reality of what we are living through, the people who post links to noted conspiracy theory web pages and spend hours googling to find spurious claims by bloggers to fit their narrative need to get a grip far more urgently than most tbf.

*I'm shielding. That isn't irrational.

Some of them don't seem to have the mental ability to get a grip as the saying goes. If you talk to some older people, you may find that oldies don't go all to pieces when a catastrophe, or something horrible occurs

What a load of bollocks. Plenty of older people can’t cope and plenty of younger people can. It has nothing to do with age. My 11 year old is coping much better than my 78 year old MIL. My 75 year old father (who has lived with depression and anxiety for a decade) is coping better than my 21 year old nephew.

My mum who is famously a coper and is one of the strongest women I know, is actually finding it all quite hard and is terrified she will die if she catches it.

Stop with all this young people just aren’t strong or resilient crap.

Anyone dismissing Chronophobia should listen to Dr Sarah Jarvis on BBC Radio 2 today. She chatted with Jeremy Vine regarding this issue, and it really has become a massive problem for some people. It needs perspective which is sadly lacking at the moment.

The government will have to start reassuring the public very quickly and will do some back pedalling on the `stay at home' mantra.

Imperial College have today released a study of over 16,000 patients in the UK, who were admitted to hospital.

45% had no underlying health conditions.

25% younger than 57
2% 18 or under
1% under 5

33% died.

Doesn't seem particularly irrational to be worried about this.

I think the government have done a good job of allowing the media to scare people witless because that was part of the strategy in getting people to comply.

They will have to reverse some of that, and it’ll be tough. You only have to read MN to see how hysterical some people have become.

(What was the demographic and underlying health status of the 33% that died?...and its 50% ish in ITU)

It’s not just mental illness I’m concerned about although I’m sure the effects on it are going to be awful for a huge number of people. It’s the loss of dcs education and the long term implications of that because some parents and teachers are too scared even consider how they could go back to school, other health conditions that are going untreated because people are too scared to seek advice, the economy because people are too scared to leave their homes go to work etc, etc.

It's interesting. I'm wondering how many of the people who think everyone is overreacting and that we should end lockdown soon are the same as those who spent all of February telling everyone that "it's just the flu."

The split is just wonderful. Lets see half the population as pathetic, eh? Tell them to get a grip, aye?

Horrible thread.

Daffodil101 I don't know about the media scaring people witless.

You only have to read some of the threads on MN for that.

33% died

33% of what? The whole 16000? Were they over or under 50? How many had co-morbidities?
The way you've written it there sounds like 33% or healthy people who go to hospital with covid die?

When it's not true is it.?

I don’t know really, I’m a single parent and work frontline for the nhs. My young dd has been in childcare for far too many hours throughout this crisis and I’ve been at work. I’m so tired now and dd and I both need some time together soon to rest and recover a little but we can’t, so I’m hoping the strong and the healthy will be able to join us soon to to rebuild our country and our economy and help to continue to protect the most vulnerable and that’s going to take guts and courage from so many who have been scared and frightened but if you are amongst those, I know you’ll be able to do it...because I have, and I’m the biggest wuss I know. Sorry for the ramble...I’m shattered.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras the fact that people are only admitted to hospital once they're condition has deteriorated to a point where they need assistance to breath is masking these statistics.

Those 16,000 are a small subset of the number of people the virus, which once again is a small subset of the overall population.

Until there is mass testing, both for persons symptomatic, and for those who believe they had it we will never know how impactful the virus has been.

That isn't to say that every single one of those deaths isn't a tragedy, and we'll never know that if we admitted people to hospital earlier they may have been ok. We should be cautious, shield those most at risk, protect the NHS from being overwhelmed.

But the NHS needs to return to a semblance of normal too. Scheduled operations need rescheduling, specialist appointments need booking. I wonder if there will be red and green hospitals going forward?

My great-uncle died last week from Corona. Now my dad (same age) is terrified of getting it. Does he need to ‘get a grip’.

OP- Don’t be a dick.

Hearhooves, now don't you be going giving facts out. Can't have that on a conspiracy theory thread.
I was told yesterday (after linking to the official figures from the FT showing the % of people with Covid who die) that I was a liar and to get off the thread when I know nothing about Covid.
They'll be after you next.
Oh! They already are.

Greysparkles

33% of the 16,000 as I said.

All of the percentages that I quoted related to the 16,000 that I described in the first sentence.

Nothing about my post suggests I was referring to a wider population.

Imaystillbedrunk

I understand that these figures relate to patients sick enough to be admitted and not to everyone infected. But it is the case that 33% of those studies, died.

So, of 16,000 people sick enough to be admitted to hospital, 33% died.