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Is anyone becoming suspicious?

281 replies

Emcont · 30/04/2020 15:32

I am not. I am referring to increased posts on a Covid-19 Facebook group and peoples comments on posts, news links and news websites

I'm unsure if people are just getting twitchy or they genuinely believe this isn't a real thing??

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JellyfishandShells · 30/04/2020 17:37

It’s all so very organised

Because logos were created quickly ? ?

Blimey. Talk about scraping the barrel to support your deranged view.

Those saying it must all be made up because they don’t personally know someone who has had it - well, count yourself lucky. I live in London and have an immediate family member (pin their 20s who has has had it, ( caught at work from a returner from an Italian ski holiday,) and has lingering after effects, another relative who is an anaesthetist has spent her days intubating people in the ICU, my next door neighbour has lost his aunt - and the story of her funeral was so sad.

But they must all be lizards, or whatever David Icke has dreamt up for the hard of thinking , and all these people must be lizards conspiring to fool people.

Heavens, I must be a lizard, too , and hadn’t noticed.

Noextremes2017 · 30/04/2020 17:39

Of course the virus is real but the fact is that most of the people who have died had other medical conditions. For some it has struck out of nothing but not for the majority. It is real and it is tragic for those affected and their families.

However, one thing I do find very surprising is that Boris Johnson is one of very few people in the public eye below the age of 65 who has apparently been struck down badly by the virus and without a pre-existing medical condition? Have I missed any other prominent people in their mid 50's?

And from first hand experience - (heart attack / blood clots on lung / urosepsis) - hospital stays generally result in weight loss. Looking at him today Johnson must have been eating like a horse since he left hospital …….

Girlinterruption2020 · 30/04/2020 17:41

I think if it had been known that children get it, there would have been chaos earlier on. People react in a different way to young children and the anxiety would have caused a very different response.

That is not at all to say that older people and those who are vulnerable are any less needy of our attention and care, just that psychologically I think we can mentally accept some circumstances more than others.

dottiedodah · 30/04/2020 17:45

There are conspiracies for almost everything on the Internet! My Cousin who is a Doctor in a Northern Hospital, caught it and so did some of her colleagues .No correct PPE .I have heard it all : 5G is responsible and there is no virus!(WTAF)? A vaccine will be given which has our data on it ,Its a plot to take down congestion, by keeping us at home ,and finally a new world order! Unexplained Viruses from "nowhere" must have a rational explanation it seems !

midgebabe · 30/04/2020 17:46

Shouldn't that be "irrational explanation "?

TabbyMumz · 30/04/2020 17:49

A lot of hospitals will be empty, because operations are cancelled etc. That's not a conspiracy theory.

tentative3 · 30/04/2020 17:49

I think it's probable that in years to come information will come to light which was unknown or unshared now, but whether that counts as a conspiracy I don't know. I absolutely believe Covid is real though, and I find it very frightening. I also agree that the powers granted to various governments may be difficult to step back from. Again, not sure that makes it a conspiracy though.

On a separate but related note, the thing I don't really get about the idea of this NWO thing is why? What do 'they' want once they control us all?

Rubyroost · 30/04/2020 17:52

I don't believe this shit obvs but the isn't it weird how loads of politician and celebs have had it, but hardly any normal people 😂

gingganggooleywotsit · 30/04/2020 17:54

oh for God's sake op. Are you also a flat earther? Don't be so ridiculous.

VikVal81 · 30/04/2020 17:55

Having followed this from January and known people who have died from it, plus a few who have to deal with wrecked kidneys, that whatever it is out there is real...The origin can be debated, but there is a new disease killing people that has spread around the globe.

Iwalkinmyclothing · 30/04/2020 17:55

Some people are. The same people who buy into conspiracy theories all the time. I think a degree of scepticism is healthy and questioning the government is essential, and I'm sure we are often misled. But there's a big difference between being a bit of a cynic and being batshit, and conspiracy theorists are usually in the latter group.

Raccoon2020vision · 30/04/2020 17:56

The virus is real. How it started, how it emerged, why there are so many strains of it - those are just some of the questions needing to be answered.

In terms of conspiracy theories, it's hardly rocket science to observe how many governments are using this as a method of speeding up electronic currency as the only method of exchange. There's always barter, but a) there's way too many of us for that to really work, especially in cities and b) what could most of us barter with in our current western civilisation? I'd be very surprised if surveillance laws and civil obedience laws aren't tightened to thumbscrew proportions in the next few months, and countries, ALL countries, will start getting even twitchier than they already were about immigration and/or "Outsiders", or "gaijin", to use a Japanese term.

Many hospitals will be restarting their usual work in the next couple of weeks, I believe (certainly in the areas that weren't hit so hard in this wave). I'd anticipate they'd suddenly be at LEAST as busy as they used to be although it may take a different form - more telehealth, for instance. And this gives time to prepare for the next wave, if it hits, based on historical precedent, in the autumn.

Besides, HumanKiller 2020 (aka the Big Bad Asteroid) didn't hit us in the end yesterday, so that's one conspiracy theory that can be kicked along the road. (The asteroid is real though that's obviously not it's name. It's real name is even more catchy - it's (52768) 1998 OR2.) Strikes me that the aliens' pitch isn't all that good sometimes....

Raccoon2020vision · 30/04/2020 17:56

*its, Grammar Police. Not it's in this context.

BackseatCookers · 30/04/2020 17:56

A virus that conveniently attacks the most “disposable” in our society - the very elderly - but leaves the young (largely) alone... have you ever heard the like? Children are usually the first to get any virus going, and they get it hard because it’s the first time.

I mean, off the top of my head... literally influenza?!

pointythings · 30/04/2020 17:57

Ruby normal people don't get into the papers when they get ill. Because they're.... normal people.

In the Trust where I work, we're now testing rigorously. In our directorate alone we have had one death, we have 5 people seriously ill and 1/3 of staff tested have come up positive. The reason the NHS isn't overwhelmed is that acute hospitals have discharged very many people much, much earlier than they would otherwise have done. Money has been found to open up social care places for some, others are being cared for at home with substantial care packages, being delivered by our staff - many of whom are specialists redeployed from their normal duties.

The reason ICUs haven't been overwhelmed is that other wards have been converted into ICUs - where there is piped oxygen, this has been done. Even in our mental health unit we now have an ICU because the space is suitable. Before the COVID crisis, ICU beds were running at 95% occupancy.

Anyone who thinks this is a conspiracy, NWO, Bill Gates and all that crap is batshit.

And I am not a web developer but I too could whip up a COVID website with pretty logos in a matter of a couple of hours. It's easy-peasy.

Iwalkinmyclothing · 30/04/2020 18:00

A virus that conveniently attacks the most “disposable” in our society - the very elderly - but leaves the young (largely) alone... have you ever heard the like?

Oh god, this is painful

CuriousaboutSamphire · 30/04/2020 18:01

Sod Oh Karen.

Karen is henceforth to be named Sadie!

Utter, utter madness!

psychomath · 30/04/2020 18:03

Someone I met recently said it can't possibly be true because 'where are all the bodies'? ! Confused

What a weird argument - was she expecting them to be piled in the streets?

Rubyroost · 30/04/2020 18:04

@pointythings it was meant to be lighthearted. But I don't know anyone... Friends or friends of friends or any nhs workers that have had it... Just saying

Rubyroost · 30/04/2020 18:04

Or indeed no one on the Facebook groups I belong to.

JudyGemstone · 30/04/2020 18:05

Of course there is a virus, I know about 10-15 people who have/have had it, including my partner.

None of them have needed any treatment though, consensus is that it's not as bad as flu.

Many hospitals are empty, or quiet, yes even the covid wards. Even in London. Some are busier but it varies hugely.

So not doubting its existence, but like a pp said I AM suspicious about the Coronavirus Bill and the increase in powers to detain 'potentially infected persons' (based on what?), restrictions on gatherings (rights to protest peacefully), military in frontline policing, immigration etc.

BackseatCookers · 30/04/2020 18:06

I don't believe this shit obvs but the isn't it weird how loads of politician and celebs have had it, but hardly any normal people

Except for the 25k+ non famous, everyday, normal people in the UK so far? You say since this post it was light hearted but it's not really fun is it?

TheFormidableMrsC · 30/04/2020 18:08

I have to say, I don't know anybody who has had it and I know a lot of people. Talking to the Hermes driver the other day, he thought he'd get it with the amount of contact he has with people/surfaces/parcels etc but no, he's fine. DPD driver said the same. I have a friend who works in social housing and his job means he's in and out of people's homes constantly. He was still working up until lockdown and trying to observe good hygiene where he could and was convinced he'd get it, he is also in the vulnerable category as a Type 1 diabetic, but no. I am pretty sure a lot of people are asymptomatic or indeed have actually had it and thought it was a cold/mild flu, whatever. However, it is clear it is a complicated, insidious virus and until more is understood about it, I am happy to comply with Gov directions.

wacademia · 30/04/2020 18:10

Children are usually the first to get any virus going, and they get it hard because it’s the first time.

[facepalm] This is a new virus, so we are all getting it for the first time and it's hitting us all hard.

A colleague spent over a week in hospital with it, tested positive, sent us a selfie from his bed showing himself connected to the oxygen supply. This is not a conspiracy otherwise he would not have been in hospital!