Posters who want lockdown lifted

[DianaT1969]

I'm seeing an increase in threads where the poster is impatient for exact details of an exit strategy (even though we can all imagine what it will involve - phased re-opening of some stores and businesses etc,,). Plus we're hearing the usual cries of lockdown is hurting society more than it's helping.
Spain saw a spike in new infections today - the highest since their peak 3 weeks ago. To these posters I'd like to ask what your thread titles will be during our spikes in infections and deaths after this lockdown?
What I'm really getting at is that you don't seem to understand that we're in this for the long haul. There is no quick fix, back to normal.

Well, it's clearly not true as it contradicts ONS data.

I have no idea who Edge Health are but I do know who the ONS are and which ones I trust!

Lol.

effingterrified, see, I recognise you from other threads and I don't find you very interesting to speak with. If you want to know my thoughts (and I know you don't), I've already explained them in this thread.

I'm not saying that there are no deaths caused by the focus on covid-19. Clearly, there will be some. Equally, there will be some lives saved, eg those that would have been lost in accidents now not happening as everyone is stuck at home.

What I'm saying is that the 2000 deaths/week is complete made-up fantasy bollocks.

MarginalGain - ditto. Not sure why you're replying to my posts.

Feel free not to respond.

Ta!

Blimey the report is based on data received from the NHS and ONS. This will help to inform the decisions to be made. Why are you being weird about it? There are 60 million people in this country. This is what a lot of medical staff are saying. They are not seeing the heart attacks etc in a&e. Doesn’t mean they’re not happening.

The deaths are caused by the pandemic. Whether directly or indirectly. Not by the lockdown, without which both Covid and non Covid deaths would be much higher.

We'll all have to agree to disagree it seems. When it comes the economy some of us share the view of the Bank of England governor that the disruption and constant uncertaintly of stop, start, stop start (together with countless deaths including many more healthcare workers) would be far more damaging than an initial slightly longer lockdown. Others clearly disagree. We'll see who was right in a couple of months. I hope at not too high a cost be it number of deaths or economic devastation.

@effingterrified

The NHS has 42% empty beds. NHS England think we're past the peak and planning how to start getting back to routine work.

The deaths are caused by the pandemic. Whether directly or indirectly. Not by the lockdown, without which both Covid and non Covid deaths would be much higher.

This is really just your opinion. The NHS is now officially under capacity. Does that not indicate that perhaps there's some unexercised economic bandwidth in the UK?

Out of over half a million people that populate the county I live in, there are only 730 confirmed cases and that includes cases where people have already recovered. The county is only just outside London as well.

Although my thoughts on the continuation of the lockdown are conflicted and I appreciate that there will be more unconfirmed cases out there, it does seem a tiny number and therefore a tiny risk to most people so I can’t help but question whether this level of lockdown continues to be necessary.

Of course I do understand that the lockdown conditions are also responsible for the small numbers and I am grateful for that. At the same time however, I can’t help but start to query whether it’s time to relax restrictions a bit considering all of the people out of work and unwell for other reasons due to reduced NHS services.

Marginal I think several think the same about you

So cruel

Marginal My opinion has been influenced by the experts. Scientists - epidemiologists, immunologists. I trust their knowledge and expertise. But as I've said it could be I'm wrong (them too). You might be right. It's one hell of a Russian roulette risk to take but if that's what people want then so be it.

You can't get NHS services back to normal until you reduce the number of covid infections.,.the two are directly related

www.hsj.co.uk/coronavirus/nhs-england-gearing-up-to-restart-routine-care/7027488.article

New hospital infections have halved in comparison to the peak and COVID patients in hospital rates are dropping. The NHS is starting to plan how to start to get back to normal.

Hospital are trying to resume services but will not be back to normal for a while.Covid is veryuch there and all interactions with patients from how we run clinics,to wards to the operating theatres will reflect that.
It's with Covid patients will not want to accept critically ill non Covid patients a s it adds risk.
This will all take time so not back to normal for a while.

It also depends on where you live. Some areas (even large cities) have seen very few deaths and COVID wards are way under capacity and Nightingale Hospitals completely unused. Those NHS trusts will be 'getting back to normal' more quickly. They'll have no justification not to.

I am desperate for the lockdown to end. I have a young adult child in the hospital who I need to see. please don't suggest Skype. Not seeing him is doing a serious job on my already fragile mental health.

I am also in the vulnerable group having had cancer and other serious health issues. I want to take my chances as going on like this is not the answer. we need some kind of coherent plan. Maybe Boris will give that on Monday.

I feel there's always been an agenda on mumsnet from SOME posters to impose lockdown on us all, not due to fear, but for their own selfish reasons ie loving lockdown life or not wanting to go back to work.

not wanting to go back to work.
That mostly.

lol, like any Mumsnet poster has the power to impose lockdown on an entire population. What nonsense!

lol, like any Mumsnet poster has the power to impose lockdown on an entire population. What nonsense!

Her point was that people advocating an extended lockdown aren't doing it from the goodness of their hearts... they only want it because it benefits them.

And that's fine, but don't act like the paragon of virtue and morally superior when you've made precisely ZERO sacrifice. I'm

I feel there's always been an agenda on mumsnet from SOME posters to impose lockdown on us all, not due to fear, but for their own selfish reasons ie loving lockdown life or not wanting to go back to work.

So long as people are paid to stay home, there will be a reluctance to return to normalcy (obviously). Some people love lockdown. Weird.

The media, the government and lots of people on MN only care if you die from covid. They dont give a crap about other types of deaths

How very true, @AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter

I doubt there are many people who enjoy lockdown, it has challenges for almost everyone. Most people are just helping to explain why we had lockdown in the first place, because it seems some posters don't agree it was ever necessary. Beyond that it just needs patience for a few weeks so that we start to come out of lockdown without a huge surge of extra cases, some things will obviously take much longer to return to normal but that's because they are activities that spread the virus more. As I originally said, I expect the government has been waiting for Boris to announce a plan for exit tomorrow.

The media, the government and lots of people on MN only care if you die from covid. They dont give a crap about other types of deaths
Some weird thought gaps there. If you want the hospitals to start doing all other treatment again, then keeping covid cases low is what you want. That's what social distancing has been all about!