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Social distancing is basically quitting an addiction

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Eatseverything88 · 23/04/2020 23:02

I have fell off the wagon. Ive failed and been to see people. 5 weeks I've not seen anyone and finally fell off the wagon. I dont understand how people are treating this like it should come natural and anyone breaking the rules are the devil. This is anything but natural. The rules are shit. It is driving me crazy now. People are fine to queue at b and q or tesco mixing with strangers but are not allowed to see close family.

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perniciousdot · 24/04/2020 08:48

@SnydeValley

I would be wasting both my time and yours if I tried to respond to your latest post. I think I shall just refrain. You know the old saying 'you can't argue with stupid'? I think that fully applies.

Rocketmam · 24/04/2020 08:57

Thanks @purpleboy

Lovelydovey · 24/04/2020 09:02

I miss time on my own without DH and the DC. Still in close contact with colleagues and family most days - including the usual banter. Miss there face-to-face contact but remote contact is ok.

userxx · 24/04/2020 09:05

@syndeValley. Fair point 👍

perniciousdot · 24/04/2020 09:06

None of what snyde has posted is a 'fair point'

We have been asked not to do this, we have not been asked to give a half baked argument as to why we should

userxx · 24/04/2020 09:13

@perniciousdot I absolutely agree with her. Stuck in a flat for almost 8 weeks with kids and no outside space. - sounds like hell. I can't believe you are looking down your nose and dictating what it right and wrong. One thing this virus has shown me is that people are very fucking judgmental.

SnydeValley · 24/04/2020 09:16

@perniciousdot we have been asked to do this because people believe their non-essential work and amazon deliveries are more important than children's rights to play.

It really is that simple.

The intricacies of the lockdown policy isn't being dictated by facts, statistics, or science. If it was, we wouldn't have had Scotland locked down at the same time as London.

It's being dictated by public opinion and what the people are willing to swallow.

That's why we had the "you must stay in but you're allowed to go out for work but businesses don't have to close but some businesses have to close but can you can go out for exercise but only once a day but actually no, twice a day is fine but you can't drive but you can drive as long as you're not driving for longer than you are exercising"

We can have chippy delivered but if our washing machine breaks we need to resort to handwashing. That was genuine advice from BBC news.

They're making it up as they go along based on what the voting public are currently putting up with.

You say you can't argue with stupid but I believe you can't argue with ignorance.

perniciousdot · 24/04/2020 09:26

I can't believe you are looking down your nose and dictating what it right and wrong.

I'm not dictating what is right and wrong. It's coming from Downing Street, not me.

One thing this virus has shown me is that people are very fucking judgmental.

Indeed. And I will judge someone who thinks this does not apply to them. Of course I will. Anyone with an ounce of common sense would do the same.

perniciousdot · 24/04/2020 09:27

You say you can't argue with stupid but I believe you can't argue with ignorance.

We are all ignorant here. This is new. None of us have a full understanding. I think observing the basic measures in place is sensible.

Yesterdayforgotten · 24/04/2020 09:29

OP people are queuing yes but 2 metres apart

Yesterdayforgotten · 24/04/2020 09:39

But it will be extended, especially if people are doing what people on this thread are doing, they made that clear at the start, Boris even said that lockdown will get stricter if necessary. And if lots of people start going out and doing what has been described here - they'll extend it.

This ^ and to some of the people hugging dont you think we would all like to hug our relatives? It is a bit of a joke and when some think the rules dont apply to them when the rest of us are struggling as well.

SnydeValley · 24/04/2020 09:44

I think observing the basic measures in place is sensible.

Basic? On what planet are these measures basic?

If you can type that with a straight face then clearly our circumstances are so far removed from each other that we will never have even a base level of understanding.

I think I could observe 100% if I had at least a partner or husband, or even a grown teenage child to talk to face to face. I think I could observe 100% if I had a garden outside my back door. I think I could observe 100% if I wasn't self-employed and dealing with a reduction of income, and was instead on furlough. I think I could observe if I had better mental health at the best of times, or if I had a car to get my shopping since they've stopped delivering.

There are plenty of things that make these "basic" measures easier for people, and unfortunately many people have none of those things.

And the worst of it is I'm not even one of the unlucky ones. At least I'm not waiting on cancer screening, or in a violent relationship, or struggling to feed my children, or unemployed. At least my business isn't going under yet, and I can still pay my bills.

But hey, as long as we save covid lives, eh?

perniciousdot · 24/04/2020 09:55

@SnydeValley

None of your circumstances necessitate your children playing on equipment in the park. That really is basic stuff.

As for the difference between us, it's maybe not as big as you think, but even if is was, that's no justification for doing whatever the fuck you want and raving about 'covid lives'. In fact that post just reiterates why I said ages ago it wasn't worth my effort.

Yesterdayforgotten · 24/04/2020 09:57

@SnydeValley the measures are basic to understand thought aren't they. And yes saving lives does trump everything else.

Yesterdayforgotten · 24/04/2020 09:58

though*

SnydeValley · 24/04/2020 10:03

@Yesterdayforgotten that's a matter of opinion on both counts. We disagree.

perniciousdot · 24/04/2020 10:08

the measures are basic to understand thought aren't they. And yes saving lives does trump everything else.

that's a matter of opinion on both counts. We disagree.

Oh Snyde. What an absolutely awful person you really are. I was right to judge you from the off.

Definitely not engaging with you again. Your opinion' is a disgrace.

SnydeValley · 24/04/2020 10:17

@perniciousdot enough with the moral superiority.

My disgraceful opinion is echoed IRL and in many other threads over MN.

It's just not the popular one... yet.

We are not going to stay locked down. At some point life will have to go on. Even the WHO have said this. We will need to get used to living with this virus. More and more people will gradually come around to the acceptance phase.

It's already happening.

SnydeValley · 24/04/2020 10:19

I also think it's pretty hilarious how saving lives trumps everything else now.

Were we all going without to save malaria lives? To save ebola lives? To save cancer patients?

No, no we weren't.

I wonder why.

Missillusioned · 24/04/2020 10:27

I think a lot of the people who are enjoying lockdown or at least tolerating it ok are in happy relationships.

If I had a husband at home who I liked and who liked me I can imagine it would be fine.

I'm a single parent. I do have teenagers but they're not very communicative ATM and I'm worried that my eldest is getting depressed but she won't talk to me. I have noone to talk to about these worries.

It is very very isolating to be single atm. And any hope of meeting someone for a relationship has been dashed for this year at least.

Yesterdayforgotten · 24/04/2020 11:00

Nobody is saying this is easy and obviously everybody has different levels of hardship; some of us have it alot worse than others. My close relative is on his own entirely and has mental health issues. I had to leave him groceries and meals 2 metres away and of course I wanted to hug but we respected the rules. So of course it annoys me when others with more company than my relative do not!

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