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Social distancing is basically quitting an addiction

71 replies

Eatseverything88 · 23/04/2020 23:02

I have fell off the wagon. Ive failed and been to see people. 5 weeks I've not seen anyone and finally fell off the wagon. I dont understand how people are treating this like it should come natural and anyone breaking the rules are the devil. This is anything but natural. The rules are shit. It is driving me crazy now. People are fine to queue at b and q or tesco mixing with strangers but are not allowed to see close family.

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SnydeValley · 24/04/2020 07:02

when they catch covid19 from their own stupidity and selfishness.

How could you possibly know if it was from their "own stupidity" or if they caught it because Mike from the essential supermarket trip sneezed on them?

And no... if they catch Covid 19 it's because Covid 19 is a virus that, by it's very nature, is good at infecting humans.

We are all very likely to catch Covid 19. If you think otherwise you're in for a very rude awakening, unless you plan to completely isolate yourself from the world for the next couple of years.

What a ridiculous comment.

Peppafrig · 24/04/2020 07:03

@userxx if that's what you choose to believe that in three weeks time we will all go back to normal and all social distancing will be lifted. Then crack on . But with Chris Witty saying social distancing will be going on for the rest of year I really think you will be disappointed.

SnuggyBuggy · 24/04/2020 07:04

That's the thing, we don't have a clue if and when any of this will end. It would be different if we could make plans with our loved ones and we can't even do that.

Bluewavescrashing · 24/04/2020 07:09

I miss seeing my family who live 2 hours away.

I miss watching my children have fun at a park or theme park or with their friends.

I miss going to the beach or wandering around the shops and going out for lunch.

I don't really miss people generally though. I like the quiet.

Everyone is different.

hopefulhalf · 24/04/2020 07:10

Pubs being open in 3 weeks Confused not a cats in hell chance.

userxx · 24/04/2020 07:21

@hopefulhalf I know, they won't be open for a long time sadly.

userxx · 24/04/2020 07:23

@Peppafrig Where did I say social distancing would be lifted? I said lockdown will be lifted. People have to get back to work and public transport will be used. Life can't carry on like this.

Straycatstrut · 24/04/2020 07:26

I haven't but I'm close.

I'm the only adult in the house and with no lockdown I'd be told "Make sure you have time for YOU, and with other adults, or you'll go mad".... and the little bits of socialising I got here and there kept me sane. The long walks. The trips to my parents. The flipping school run.

This is dangerous. I'm getting really depressed and not looking after my children properly because I cannot function properly. I have screamed and cried in front of them. I break up fights, cook, clean, educate. Wash up, do washing. Hoover. Scrub. Nothing for me to keep me positive. Gained weight then lost it quickly and continuing to lose fast.. I've had dark thoughts. Same depressing routine every day. I feel like a cooped up slave with no freedom.

SinglePringle · 24/04/2020 07:27

I live alone and have realised I really like my own company! What I have missed is choice - the choice to do what I want, when I want. And swimming. I’m really missing swimming.

SnuggyBuggy · 24/04/2020 07:27

If you suck the joy out of people's lives it's inevitable that many will start to care less about their and others safety.

SinglePringle · 24/04/2020 07:28

Apologies Strut. We posted at the same time, my comments are not in response to yours and I’m sorry you’re struggling.

userxx · 24/04/2020 07:29

@Straycatstrut Can you go and see your parents, obviously from a safe distance ? You have to put your mental health first and it sounds like you're suffering badly.

SophieB100 · 24/04/2020 07:38

Sorry if you're struggling, we all are, I know I am.
But the poster who said we'll all be out and about in 3 weeks time anyway, is deluded.
We'll be lucky to all be out and about in 3 months time, especially if people behave like some of you are now.

fedupfrida · 24/04/2020 07:53

It’s not an addiction, it’s part of being a human. We are social creatures. Even those who say they are enjoying not seeing people (which I can relate to) would eventually need another person or two. That’s not to say we need to be social bunnies with hundreds of friends. Just that we all need love, contact and communication with a few others.
I’ve enjoyed lockdown on the whole but I can tell that after 5 weeks I’m starting to feel differently. I couldn’t do this long term even though we are shielding. We can’t be locked up like zoo animals for months on end. Me eldest child is really struggling now too. He misses his friends and his activities badly. He has a daily meltdown and I’m worried for him:(

userxx · 24/04/2020 07:54

@SophieB100 Do you think lockdown will last another 3 months?

userxx · 24/04/2020 07:56

@SophieB100 And I'm not deluded, just realistic that the economy can't continue like this.

Rocketmam · 24/04/2020 07:57

Autistic household here and we've never been happier!

The dc are now very settled, relaxed (we've got an extremely regular routine now!) and no meltdowns!

Dd7 was doing well at school but is now flying through work at home and is doing year 2 and year 3 work because she wants to. She is learning Spanish as a hobby! She is adamant that it is better at home and I'm starting to wonder if I'd be doing her a disservice by forcing her back. Dd was so shattered from masking at school that she would come home, not say a word to anyone, eat and then sleep.

She had a friend at school but says she doesn't miss her as she doesn't need her now, she was just to get the staff to stop bugging her to play with someone. I understand as I was also like this as a child, I genuinely do not require social interaction to be happy, quite the opposite (unless it is dh, dc or my dm, I am happy to talk to them).

Ds3 was going to nursery, non verbal and very regular meltdowns. When he was diagnosed last year they thought he was 'lower' on the ability spectrum than the rest of us (myself, Ddad and dd were also diagnosed on the nhs, dh has not been butdd's consultant pediatrician suggested he might want to be).

However after one hell of a first week of lockdown for all of us (routine changed drastically) ds has started to talk! It is still a little fuzzy but we have clearly had these words used repeatedly every day : mum, dad, car, transformer, bumblebee, optimus prime, dd's name, ds's name, venom, spiderman, cheese sandwich, please, thank you.

This is from a preciously completely non-verbal child! He never even babbled. More than that, he has turned in to such a happy little boy. He sits and draws stick figures (never so much as held a crayon before as he refused) plays with his dsis and actually sits with books now.

Seeing them now has made me question health visitors/pediatricians advice. I believe they believe in what they are saying, that we must have a lot of social interaction, go out to busy places so the dc 'get used to it' but I'm starting to think they are wrong. Some interaction with loved family members, some interaction with others when necessary like when going to playgrounds, sure.

I will have to see what happens, but if ds regresses when he goes back, and if dd goes back to not talking at all after school again I am going to have to re-think our lives. As well meaning as they are I think the experts are still trying to cram us into an neurotypical box.

As much as I like a rare few members of my family, the relief at not having unexpected drop ins is fantastic. As is having no pressure to go to social occasions, pretend to like people or having to 'mask'. I love my work but not having to do small talk is fantastic (unfortunately in the male dominated industry I chose they still bloody do it!)

Blush rambling post there, sorry. Still trying to work through these thoughts myself.

Pinkarsedfly · 24/04/2020 08:06

I’m really sorry for those who are suffering. Truly.

Speaking for myself, though - I can’t believe how much better I feel, not having to do things and see people. I have DH and two DSes at home, and that suits me. I’ve gone back to work three days after a month off, and I actually miss home.

It’s given me food for thought, tbh. I thought I was just a bit lazy, not wanting to go out, but the strong feeling that a weight has been lifted makes me wonder if it’s more than that.

SophieB100 · 24/04/2020 08:08

@userxx
Of course I don't know that it will be for 3 months. What I do know is that it won't be lifted in 3 weeks! But it will be extended, especially if people are doing what people on this thread are doing, they made that clear at the start, Boris even said that lockdown will get stricter if necessary. And if lots of people start going out and doing what has been described here - they'll extend it. Then all those who are now breaking the guidance, can start a thread bemoaning the fact, without seeing the irony that it was people who behaved like them, that caused it.
Science wasn't my strongest subject at school, but even I get that the virus needs people to spread. To stop it spreading they need people to only go out when absolutely necessary, thus the R goes well below 1, so they can then consider softening the lockdown (not ending it, softening it). But they won't do that before the R number is where they deem safe. And the R number will not go down if people keep hugging their friends, popping in the car with their mates etc.

So yes, if people defy the guidance, up to them. But all it will do is delay the end of lockdown, screw up the economy further, and give them all another reason to bemoan about their lot.

SnydeValley · 24/04/2020 08:18

@Straycatstrut I was / am feeling very similarly to you and am in the same position with being the only adult.

Cooped up in a flat with no garden.

Last night I took the kids to the park and let them swing and climb and actually play, something they haven't done for nearly 2 months as I'm trying to work full time from home so they're pretty much glued to screens.

It made me feel much better and I plan to do the same tonight.

I'm not telling you that you should do this... just saying that mental health is just as important as physical health. Children need to play. You can't keep families cooped up in flats indefinitely, not unless they plan on welding doors shut.

Work out what might help you and weigh up the risks, whether that is visiting family at a distance or sitting down in a park with a flask of tea.

perniciousdot · 24/04/2020 08:20

Last night I took the kids to the park and let them swing and climb and actually play, something they haven't done for nearly 2 months as I'm trying to work full time from home so they're pretty much glued to screens.

It made me feel much better

Jesus Christ. So long as you feel better though Hmm

SnydeValley · 24/04/2020 08:30

@perniciousdot oh yeah sorry I forgot, the only point to life now is to prevent other people dying of covid Hmm

Fuck everything else.

Save Covid lives at any cost.

I disagree.

I have done my bit and will continue to do what I can, but there are limits to how much each individual can take and strangely enough they're usually dependent on personal circumstances.

Not all lockdowns are equal.

perniciousdot · 24/04/2020 08:35

@SnydeValley

oh yeah sorry I forgot, the only point to life now is to prevent other people dying of covid

Fuck everything else.

Get yourself a grip. You could take kids out for exercise and fresh air without going to a play park and have them climb all over equipment.

Save Covid lives at any cost.

I'm actually a believer in saving all lives where possible. Taking your kids to the park is an unnecessary step in doing that.

SnydeValley · 24/04/2020 08:45

Why does it matter?? The only people going on play equipment are presumably children.

We're locking down to save the NHS, aren't we?

And it's not children's hospitals that are full. It's not children who are dying.

So where exactly am I increasing risk, taking them to a virtually empty park and letting them play, then using hand sanitizer and soap when we get home?

How is them touching play equipment any different than touching things in the supermarket, or touching amazon deliveries, or touching your takeaway coffee, or your delivered pizza box, or the bell on a bus, or every non-essential piece of equipment at the thousands of work places that are still open?

It's not any different. Not at all.

People are deluding themselves if they think it is.

Social distancing, hand washing, and letting the virus run it's course is our way out of this. The moment public opinion shifts this (and it absolutely will) that's what will be implemented.

purpleboy · 24/04/2020 08:46

@Rocketmam that's so lovely to hear how well your children are coming on. We have to take all the positives we can right now and yours has put a smile on my faceSmile

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