I can’t see an end to this.. 😔

[Mummypig2020]

God I’m really struggling the past few days.

I just want to see some light at the end of the tunnel. It just feels like constant negative news and nothing about the near future.

It makes me so sad. How are other countries starting to go “back to normal”? But we aren’t?

@Mummypig2020

Ignore the souls on here on self-destruct, like @0v9c99f9g9d939d9f9g9h8h

They want to bring the country down and one way to do that is destabilise people through social media.

Step back and accept Coronavirus at face value. It is a serious threat, to your life, to your dad’s and I am a mirror of you, my life, my loved ones, replicated around the world a billion-fold. Things will get easier, but you have to trust society and the system to get it right. Mistakes have been made, but that is inevitable in war. And we are at war, but it is a war we will win. People like @0v9c99f9g9d939d9f9g9h8h want the NHS to fail. They want your job to fail. They want your housing to fail. They want society to fail because they are anarchists. They will win if you let their messages into you head.

This is what I foresee. More testing. Doctors and nurses learning how to administer better treatment. More research into vaccines. More targeted financial support from the Treasury. A gradual and safe evolvement back from lockdown, but only when plans to protect the most vulnerable are honed. More capacity made available so we can deal with further waves. But all this takes time to put together, to test and evolve.

Thank god you are not in Brazil or the USA. This is a race where the tortoise wins, not the hare.

You will see your father soon. And I will see my family too.

I feel a bit like this too but then I have to remind myself that so far my family are all healthy and DH and I have secure jobs on full pay so that’s a lot more than some people.

We were booked to go on a once in a lifetime DisneyWorld holiday in July which we were do looking forward to but looks like we won’t be going.

I feel so at the Government who knew this was coming (from the Italian experience) yet did nothing for weeks. We allowed so many people to fly in from China and Italy unchecked. We didn’t lockdown fast enough. We are letting people in care homes down. And don’t get me started on health care staff and the lack of PPE. Testing and contact tracing is still a joke. The whole thing is so incompetent.

Actually, we are going back to normal.

The H&S exec have given us the go ahead to send our engineers back to work, with strict clear guidelines. Other industry's will go back, with the same advice. Its the start of us returning back to normal.

Its not immediately obvious. This won't go back exactly how they were. But its a start.

Hi op!

I know some people will be irritated when I say this, but the last few days I’ve actually been feeling rather hopeful.

Numbers (I know they had a bit of a jump yesterday) are generally plateauing and looking at the charts on Worldometer, a few weeks now should make a world of difference. I know that doesn’t help the poor souls who have passed away or their families, but it is a light at the end of the tunnel.

I get that there may be secondary peaks and there are more infections to come, but with stabilising numbers so will some freedoms...and boy will they feel good!

It’s been very hard and much more so with some people. Give it a few more weeks and I think we’re going to start seeing a change for the better.

Stay positive...it’s a lot nicer for ourselves than giving in to the feelings of catastrophe.

@Shitsgettingcrazy yes, I'm in the manufacturing industry (non essential goods) and we have been closed since the lockdown began, my directors are currently working on a plan to reopen with social distancing measures.

This is now about you managing your feelings, not solving the virus

Wise words

@Margob7 nothings wrong with me, thanks. I'm one of the people having to continue to work during this. Adults need to grow up and accept this new current way of life.

@Waxonwaxoff0 we would have gone back from last Monday. But we were in the first 3 weeks of furlough, stuck with it.

But we ate now prepping for starting them back, in stages, from Monday.

I suspected we weren't the only company or industry doing this.

I agree with 0v9c99f9g9d939d9f9g9h8h and sweetkitty that the UK government managed this badly so far. I hope that this improves and that the lockdown can end soon.

@Mummypig2020 I don't think it's outlandish to hope to go to Cornwall in July. Other countries are stepping down lockdowns now, we're a bit behind but nonetheless we're through the worst of it.

wghats the point of flattening the curve if we are getting there anyway.yes other conoutries had huge losses quickly but so what,they are doing something different because they are now getting things back.we are what?just going to get there slower.how does that help anyone we are just losing more by getting there slower.
we help the nhs?what so they can help us die for longer.what were we doing wrong?becausde we must be.we are still suffering horribl;e losses and there appears to be no plan or ease of thi8s.so we flatten this magical curve.to still have the same deaths in the end if we carry on.just slower.

Stop watching the news @Mummypig2020, it's depressing at the best of times.

There is light at the end of the tunnel, they are starting to trial a vaccine on Thursday.

Unfortunately if we are on lockdown we could be waiting several years for a vaccine. We will just have to get used to it. Better to stay at home for 5 years and survive right?

Lol, good one!

@0v9c99f9g9d939d9f9g9h8h
Public Health England have an awful lot to answer for regarding PPE, too much red tape, too many bureaucrats, too many tosspots refusing to authorise PPE, too many idiots more interested in playing my department is more important than yours. Or has this gone through the correct channels one up man ship. That's why PPE is being shipped out of Britain. Wankers all of them.

2kateandme The point of flattening the curve is to make sure there will be healthcare available for everyone who needs it and that there will be less deaths. Every country has done it.

Kateandme flattening the curve is about making sure everyone can access treatment if they need it. If we peak quickly all the hospital beds will be full and people will die when they didn't need to. For example this includes the 40 year olds with no health problems who need some oxygen to get better- if you have a steep peak then they won't access this. There will be more deaths of people who could have easily been saved if we had only flattened the curve.

Mistakes have been made, but that is inevitable in war. And we are at war, but it is a war we will win

Heard it all now!

This isn't a bloody war, the virus isn't an enemy, its a virus, it does what viruses do.
We may get a vaccine, we may get better treatments, equally e may not get either! but so long as we allow those who govern us to escape scrutiny, which is what your post is advocating, then we have no hope.

We did not learn from Italy or China in the early days, by hammering home that message to Hancock/Johnson, we might get them to learn from countries that come out of lock down before us.

Allowing ANY govt carte blanche to do as they like, will end in the sort of disaster you seek to avoid.

We are keeping people at home, in some cases to suffer and to die there, to avoid overwhelming the NHS, i'm not entirely sure that's a great policy success but it does allow (you) & everyone to say "the NHS is coping"

How's it feel being an anarchist, @0v9c99f9g9d939d9f9g9h8h? Obviously anyone who criticises the government is an Enemy of the People, so I'll say no more.

@0v9c99f9g9d939d9f9g9h8h. Harsh. We have now tested half a million similar to other countries now as it’s ramped up, death rates are not as high as others. Yes there’s a POE issue but that’s worldwide. Stop putting your own country down, start supporting those who can’t cope so well with positive comments.

Op we will go back to normal, but we are weeks behind other countries who started lockdown earlier and are just coming out of it. There will be light at the end of the tunnel, although it’s likely social distancing will be in place for a while. Testing on a vaccine has started with a number of countries doing different things to try and find a vaccine. ,

Mummypig I feel the same, but you need to remember to look at the facts. There will at some point be a vaccine or treatment available, and it looks like those things will be within the foreseeable future. Until then life might get easier bit by bit, it won't be this strict the whole time. I hope you can see your dad soon, I miss my parents so so much x

@0v9c99f9g9d939d9f9g9h8h I agree with you.

Ov9 forgive me not typing your whole user name, but I have to say ‘bravo’ for your post.
It summed up the situation so precisely, well said. 👏👏👏

My effort would have had far more ‘fuck’s in it! 😀

I think Chris Witty was speaking more frankly today because it's clear that most of the population haven't been taking the hint. But at the same time, there will be a lot of confusion about what he meant as the distinction between the concept of social distancing and the current regulations/guidance isn't clear in many peoples minds.

Talking to DH about this earlier - I think we will see some restrictions lifted late May/June and a bit more normality. However, I think that people will be a bit silly and we will have a second wave in September and to be prepared for a lockdown over November/December/January. Christmas will NOT be a big event so get your stuff during the break.

I can't see us (we are older, although not in the vulnerable category) going to a pub or restaurant until next year. I don't even care because I would rather we were safe. We are currently sourcing a heater for our patio so we can sit out in the winter!!

I think as 1861 was the 'year with no summer', 2020 will go down in history as 'the lost year'. At least we have the sunshine and the lovely light mornings and evenings.

OP - one day nearer normality every day!

This isn’t a bloody war, the virus isn’t an enemy.

I have heard it all now!!

Of course we are at war. Not conventional bombs and bullets, but we are at war against a virus.

What bit don’t you get @jasjas1973 about how humanity should deal with this?

Do nothing? And lose the lives of between 500,000 to 750,000 people.

That is a figure between total British casualties of WW1 and WW2.

Of course we are at war.