The positive mental health thread part 6

[Bunnyflop]

Morning all! Welcome to the new thread!

Wrong thread although it's all to do with coronavirus so I guess it fits ha!

Layladylay - those last few weeks of pregnancy in my experience can be pretty awful even without all this! I remember just feeling so uncomfortable and tired and fed up at the end. If you're only getting out for a daily walk you are keeping yourself absolutely the lowest risk you can and it's very unlikely you'll get ill. Hope you can find something to enjoy about these last few weeks.

Sorry to hear that so many are struggling, it’s so bloody hard and I know we all have different circumstances, but we’re never alone

I’m going back to work next week, for three weeks, then back onto furlough. I’m likely to be rotated in and out until the furlough scheme ends. At least this offers some sort of long term security
I had a wobble to OH because I feel I’m not contributing enough financially, but he told me to stop being a tit, we’re a partnership, etc. He said that I’m doing the most important job in keeping everyone fed and happy,while he’s working long hours

Off to sort the ponies now, then pony is having a pedicure. Work zoooooom thing at 11.30 and I also need to catch up with one of my volunteers re next week!

Looking forward to the return of some warme weather too!

Maybe we're going through the dip in the change curve. I think it's called the Kubler-Ross change curve. This one might have a few ups and downs but people generally come out of them and find ways to cope. I was going to get you guys a nice view on our walk but (1) We didn't go up a hill yesterday and (2) it has clouded over quite a bit.

I'm getting better at dividing my attention between work and child without going mental.

@Elloello and @AssangesCat I was just thinking, tears generally come when you feel safe after an ordeal or when someone shows you kindness. Maybe because the initial 'drama' is over and we feel a bit safer, the tears are coming now which is actually a good thing rather than a bad thing (clutching at straws!).
Those phases of grief resonate with me I've had a lot of anger! Not so much now.
I wish I could offload onto someone (non friends/family who I don't want to dump on), I'm not actually ill so don't want to take up a professionals time and I don't need the Samaritans or want to use up their resources. Is there a helpline for whingers?!

Haha! I’d love a helpline for whingers

I could do with that right now... I have got full-on shaking-stomach, edge of tears type anxiety because... wait for it... I am setting up a new phone and it is totally freaking me out! Technology scares me. I’d love to ring someone up and be allowed to wail about how much I hate smartphones (I don’t really) and how Hard and Stressful this is for me... Obviously I would never say this irl because it is utterly utterly ridiculous and somewhere way beyond first world problems

Anyway, I cleaned the bathroom this morning and got everyone out for a walk for the first time in days, so those are wins. Going to try and give myself a big shake to get out of this ridiculous mood and get on with some home school now.

More seriously though, Arcadia, I think it’s ok to offload on friends and family most of the time - I’m sure you wouldn’t be a ‘whinger’ - I do a lot of offloading when I talk to my friends, as do they to me, and I don’t think of any of them as whingers - I think we all have our own particular struggles at the moment and talking then through is normally good.

So it's good news about the 100% antibody test, right? Maybe not (yet) an immunity passport but still be very good for healthcare professionals etc.

Yes, very good news, its a big reputable diagnostic company too so they should be hopefully be able to scale up and roll out quickly too.

@Arcadia

www.thecalmzone.net/help/helpline/

is a helpline for Campaign Against Living Miserably. If you search on-line you might find similar things specific to your local area. Are you in Scotland? If so, I'll look for more as there is campaign everywhere here at the moment about coping with lockdown.

At a time like this most people would understand and maybe feel the same if you called them for a chat and in amongst the day to day said "Crikey, I'm finding this hard, are you?". I feel better for a chat even if I don't bare my soul exactly.

Even if an antibody test doesn't give you any guarantee of protection for the future, it will give us more accurate figures for how many have had it asymptomatically, which will be both interesting and reassuring. My bet is that while it will enormously increase the numbers who have had it, the percentage who've had it badly or died of it will be enormously reduced because there will be so many more over all.

Yep, absolutely - no one seems to have any idea yet about immunity but if we could do enough antibody testing to get a good estimate of how many people have actually had it it would be really helpful for understanding more about it (and hopefully reassuring if it drags the fatality rate down).

Thinking about it a bit more, it's a lab based test, you would need to have a blood sample taken, or have a kit sent out to do it yourself (quite a faff) I did it for something else recently. Not just a pin prick. It will be run on the big machines in hospital labs but even if they can mass manufacture the necessary reagents there is finite capacity timewise on the machines so other routine tests may have to make way, I've no idea how close to capacity the instruments run normally.

However it is a really positive development, the more reliable data we have the better.

I think it’s really good @tobee ! We think we’ve had it and it would be an amazing weight off my mind to know for sure.

We’ve had a nice chill few days, made an amazing orange cake and showed DD Aladdin for the first time

"We think we’ve had it and it would be an amazing weight off my mind to know for sure."

Yes!

Seeing that it has certainly been in Europe since before Christmas without anyone actually realising it at the time (there is that French case in Paris who had samples taken in hospital when he had pneumonia, and when they checked them a lot later they were positive for cv19) there may be a really large number of people who had it and recovered and nobody knew.

edition.cnn.com/2020/05/04/health/france-coronavirus-december-death-intl/index.html

Thanks @Callybrid and @AssangesCat I actually felt fine yesterday afternoon. I got really into my work and then went for a walk with a friend in the evening so it turned out to be a good day.

Thought this was very helpful and reassuring...apologies if it has already been posted

m.youtube.com/watch?v=IbiUE_2Sv0g&feature=youtu.be

The Jenner Institute in Oxford have developed a vaccine which looks as if it may work. The National Institutes of Health’s Rocky Mountain Laboratory in Montana are testing it on Rhesus monkeys, have been for a month now, and so far it is looking good: the monkeys haven't CV19 in spite of massive exposure which has given the disease to the control group and they haven't developed any of the possible nasty side-effects either. The Jenner Institute will be testing it on 1000 human volunteers starting this week, and up to 6000 by the end of the month they hope, and if it works they can start to gear up for production. Lots of finger-crossing...

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime - my DH is involved in sorting the PPE for those trials!

This is some good radio comedy if you need a laugh.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08d5ztz

@Poppyliveshere Do you know when he said this?

@Rassy

This is the whole talk www.gresham.ac.uk/lectures-and-events/covid-19

I think it was late April but he said that it would need updating as things went along but I do feel that it puts a better balance on things and looks at the bigger picture

@Poppyliveshere Thanks