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Worried About Coronavirus- thread 38

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TheStarryNight · 18/04/2020 13:57

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middleager · 27/04/2020 23:49

That's true Red

I'd like to caveat my post with the fact I know little about sport - as is probably clear from my observations!

LilacTree1 · 28/04/2020 00:33

Dyson have been asked not to make ventilators so I guess all other potential makers have been told the same?

Just seen Belgium’s death rate per million, they’ve been in lockdown since 18
March.

Helena yes, I’m relieved this week will be cooler. We have very restricted window openings. I felt bad this week because I got back from my walk and someone had propped the communal door open with the fire extinguisher - I put it straight back to its rightful place. I understand the despair of the person who did it but tower block fire worries are worse.

I normally try to spend a lot of time in the bathroom in hot weather - wish I was joking - but lately the drainage smells have been really bad. Maybe because everyone is in all the time.

I don’t know if I ought to see if I can get a doctor note to allow me to sit in the park in summer. The thermostat switches off at 35 and the fridge freezer doesn’t work in that heat. So I don’t know how hot it gets but I think 38 probably?

I have low blood pressure- apparently helpful against covid but much more likely to faint in heat like the oven I live in!

ToffeeYoghurt · 28/04/2020 00:46

Re football. I'm surprised clubs will want to play the London ones. As RTB says the risk is really with and for the backroom staff. I can see the point about giving people an incentive to stay in and have the telly on.

I've been saying for a while how I'm dreading Covid in the hot weather. A fever during a heatwave sounds awful. As does a potential (second) lockdown. It's another reason why I'd so much rather have a slightly longer lockdown now. If only we'd followed the lead of other countries in having a proper lockdown. Likely it could've been shorter and better contained Covid. I hope we can get numbers down and increase testing enough to avoid a hot weather second wave/lockdown.

Quartz2208 · 28/04/2020 08:08

London is the one falling and having very much had the peak. By June it’s more likely to be the other way round

MarshaBradyo · 28/04/2020 08:14

NZ is good news, makes our situation feel very different though.

Good R4 interview now on the success of their travel ban.

pocketem · 28/04/2020 09:20

Top NYC coronavirus doctor commits suicide

A top New York City doctor dealing with coronavirus was taken her own life. Dr Lorna Been, medical director of the emergency department of New York-Presbyterian Allen Hospital, died of self inflicted injuries on Saturday. She had contracted coronavirus during the course of her work, returning to the job after 10 days of recuperating only to be sent home again by the hospital. Her family intervened to bring her to stay with them in Charlottesville, where she committed suicide on Saturday. She had no history of mental illness. The 49 year old's father told the New York Times "She tried to do her job and it killed her"

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StrawberryJam200 · 28/04/2020 09:50

Gosh @pocketem what a tragic story. I do hope health service managers and governments around the world do enough to support the mental health of our HCPs.....

Remember hearing on the radio a couple of weeks ago about NHS nurses who were having panic attacks. The "heroes" narrative doesn't really leave room for those kind of effects.

Coquohvan · 28/04/2020 11:48

This quote from Prof Pennington, would be amazing if at all possible. Would it even be a realistic number to reach? Or his wishing ideal target?

The UK Government is aiming to carry out 100,000 tests a day by the end of this month, but Prof Pennington believes the target should be nearer one million

RedToothBrush · 28/04/2020 12:04

Will the families of NHS staff who kill themselves be eligible for covid-19 death pay out from the government?

pocketem · 28/04/2020 12:20

Yesterday we did just 26,000 tests. Very doubtful we will hit the 100k target by the end of this month. Government have just announced they will stop releasing the test numbers this week 🤷‍♀️

Keepdistance · 28/04/2020 12:24

I think lots of people would pay for the antibody tests.
Imo that is more important than the swabbing.
Need to jnow how many it can still infect and know the side effects of having had it.
Some shield ing might be able to unshield.lots
The swabs are onoy 70% accurate anyway.
Then masks too. Again if washable and reuseable people will pay.

I do really agree with eradication.

If you got rates really low you could eadi!y retest people to confirm they are clear or just make them take more like 3w off.
If only they could find a symptoms the asymptomatic people all had.

RedToothBrush · 28/04/2020 12:25

The UK Government is aiming to carry out 100,000 tests a day by the end of this month, but Prof Pennington believes the target should be nearer one million

One of the problems that they think there will be post lockdown is that pre-lockdown the virus was in hotspots. Post lockdown the virus has had time and opportunity to spread throughout the country, so any flare up post lockdown is likely to be much more widespread.

That poses a lot of logistic problems. Previously you could divert resources to hotspots from places which weren't suffering so badly.

We've set up our testing and hospital over spills in very centralised locations rather than trying to build capacity on a more universal accessable basis which perhaps is the wrong way to go about things. You will end up with places where people have less access to health care, having breakouts before it goes noticed by authorities - by which point, it could be too late.

In this sense 100,000 tests per day split across the country isn't necessarily that many. There are 69 official cities in the UK ( 51 in England, seven in Scotland, six in Wales, and five in Northern Ireland.) Several town without city status have higher populations than some of the cities on the official list too.

For the sake of argument lets give every English City 1000 tests to every city but London, Manchester, Leeds, Birmingham, Sheffield, Bradford, Bristol, Leicester, Nottingham and Liverpool (populations above 300,000). Thats half your tests gone already before you've given any to the major population centres or you've thought about towns and rural areas.

100,000 tests a day, doesn't actually go that far once you've spread them out to where people can actually get to them and use them. Realistically you need to be mobilising this to more like GP level. There's roughly 7000 GP surgeries in England. Thats 14 tests per day per GP. Is that really enough?

RedToothBrush · 28/04/2020 12:44

This is interesting.

Massive dip in happiness pre-lockdown. But this has risen through lockdown but not to pre-lockdown levels.

Big rises in frustration and boredom.

Sadness is up, but only to Christmas levels.

Stress peaked just before lockdown and has steadily declined throughout.

Contentment is back to pre-lockdown levels.

The surprising one is that loneliness has stayed fairly constant.

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Coquohvan · 28/04/2020 12:44

@RedToothBrush
Re death by suicide, poor souls who have MH so severe do this, the statement states for death due to Covid19.
As ever the devil is in the detail.

Thats 14 tests per day per GP. Is that really enough?

No

pocketem · 28/04/2020 12:50

Scottish government now recommending mask-wearing, at least in specific circumstances

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SistemaAddict · 28/04/2020 13:10

Where would people get the masks from? Would they have to be specific types the ensure maximum protection? It seems very problematic due to standards, expectations of protection levels, false sense of security etc.

pocketem · 28/04/2020 13:18

As per CDC in America and the German authorities, they recommend face coverings rather than specific masks. Can use cloth, scarves, bandanas etc

woodencoffeetable · 28/04/2020 13:18

Where would people get the masks from?

in germany home sewn masks are recommended. they also ask people who can sew (mostly women of course) to make some for neighbours who can't.
plus the distancing rules still should be adhered to.

CricketCrocket · 28/04/2020 13:27

The full info from Sturgeon was read out on the radio and towards the end it does say it doesn’t mean a surgical mask, any face covering will work ie a scarf

Focusanddetermination · 28/04/2020 14:38

Government have just announced they will stop releasing the test numbers this week

Maybe because Keir Starmer wrote and published a letter at the start of the week asking about number of things including tests, giving until Thursday for Government to confirm they were hitting target.

Eeyoresstickhouse · 28/04/2020 15:25

So they know they wont hit target so they just stop publishing how many they have done so people have no proof?

I am gobsmacked that the government would take this stand. So much for being "transparent " lying bastards.

HeIenaDove · 28/04/2020 16:45

Women get asked to sew masks Men get the football starting up again.

wintertravel1980 · 28/04/2020 16:58

Government have just announced they will stop releasing the test numbers this week

Can you please provide a reliable link for this? It doesn't sound plausible.

buttermilkwaffles · 28/04/2020 17:02

"23% of Britons think the economy should be restarted and businesses should reopen even if #covid19 is not fully contained - the lowest among 14 countries polled."
mobile.twitter.com/IpsosMORI/status/1255052460722401280

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HeIenaDove · 28/04/2020 17:21

Hancock says too early to say when schools can go back.

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