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Police tell family they’re not allowed in front garden

369 replies

LilacTree1 · 09/04/2020 22:15

Bloody ridiculous

Video and story here

twitter.com/syptweet/status/1248294700827709440

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Itwasntme1 · 11/04/2020 05:54

I watched the video and understand the police force has apologised.

It did concern me that the police officer clearly didn’t understand the rules she was enforcing. I don’t expect the police to have a degree in law, however this is basic stuff and she clearly either hadn’t been reportedly briefed or hadn’t listened.

It is very damaging to the credibility of the force. We need to trust the police at times like this. This officer needs retained very quickly. I would be concerned about her competence.

cactus2020 · 11/04/2020 07:36

No significant harm was done in this case. The officer has apologized and it's been publicly clarified. People make mistakes and nothing terrible came of this. Time to move on. Police have such a hard job particularly at the moment, cut them some slack. One error, no harm, major gleeful fuss and outrage. We really have bigger things to worry about.

chomalungma · 11/04/2020 07:53

One error, no harm, major gleeful fuss and outrage

Without the fuss and outrage, the apology wouldn't have happened.

TabbyMumz · 11/04/2020 08:02

It's a good job he filmed her. If he hadnt the police would have lied and said it never happened. She was also too close.

chomalungma · 11/04/2020 08:37

Discussion on Radio 4 now

JudyCoolibar · 11/04/2020 09:06

One error, no harm, major gleeful fuss and outrage

It's unlikely to be one error, is it? That officer is likely to have spent the day telling people they can't be in their front gardens, and you have to wonder whether all her colleagues weren't briefed to do the same. And it will do harm in relation to, for instance, people with children with SEN, or people suffering domestic abuse who will feel even more trapped.

VegetableMunge · 11/04/2020 09:33

Seeing these threads saddens me and makes me feel like all my sacrifices and triumphs are really quite worthless.

If you can't tolerate criticism of police for breaking the law to the extent that it makes you feel your (presumably and hopefully legal) police work is worthless, I suggest you do some work on that problem mrsradley. It's not actually healthy. The onus is on you to fix it, not on others to avoid behaving reasonably to tiptoe around your issue.

No significant harm was done in this case.

You have absolutely no idea whether this is the case or not. You don't know what impact it had on those present and witnessing.

chomalungma · 11/04/2020 09:38

Seeing these threads saddens me and makes me feel like all my sacrifices and triumphs are really quite worthless

That does sound a bit like - don't criticise the police because it makes me feel sad.

VegetableMunge · 11/04/2020 09:39

It sounds exactly like that. Police trying to minimise other police breaking the law makes me feel sad too, so where does that leave us?

Itwasntme1 · 11/04/2020 10:38

I am really pleased I live in a country where any mistakes or wrongdoing or abuses of power by the police, or indeed anyone else in a position of power can be called out.

Yes this was a mini roller incident, but the officer was wrong. If you are sent out in the immunity to enforce rules, you must understand those rules. You can’t make hem up as you go along. She needs some training.

Itwasntme1 · 11/04/2020 10:39

Sorry for the typos 😊

Xenia · 11/04/2020 10:54

Some of these police are behaving like little hitlers in all this as if at last their time has come. Power has gone to their leads. Look at this example - Man on his own delivering food to his mother! How dare they arrest him? i can understand them going after groups in parks having a barbecue who are not in the same family but not this kind of thing and then they never seem to apologise properly., We really do need residents to record all of these encounters with police so we can put a stop this kind of thing.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8210029/Police-threaten-man-pepper-spray-arrest-running-errands-mother.html

chomalungma · 11/04/2020 10:59

I wonder if his skin colour made any difference to the way the police handled that?

PicsInRed · 11/04/2020 11:20

mrsradley

A lot of women have had "disappointing" experiences with the police refusing to deal with domestic violence or rape as it would be too "difficult" to get a conviction, even when clear and serious breaches of the law have occurred.

Now, all of a sudden, they are able to freely and creatively interpret the law for themselves to target shoppers with an easter egg in the cart, buying DIY from The Range, doing yoga or sunbathing at a safe distance in a public park or sitting in their own front garden?

I call bullshit.

If that hurts your feelings, you and your police colleagues should pour that hurt into doing a better job for women. Not "caring". Not "having hearts in the right place". Not "trying your best". Actually doing it. Cos right now? It's not great.

LetTheCabbagesDie · 11/04/2020 11:37

Xenia that is a shocking article.

LilacTree1 · 11/04/2020 11:53

Xenia, that is shocking

Ignore the boo hoo on the thread. Police must be held accountable.

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SarahTancredi · 11/04/2020 11:59
Shock

That poor man

canigooutyet · 11/04/2020 12:22

Oh look, yet another fine example of what is needed out on the streets. Some trumped up wanker on a power trip falsely arresting someone.
That time he was unlucky, how many other times had he done this without being filmed? Threatening people like that didn't suddenly just happen then. Any copper who doesn't whistleblow colleagues for making shite up is just as bad.

And now police officers who are there to ensure the actual real laws are adhered to don't want us talking about the dodgy fuckers? haha you are having a laugh. Too right people are going to talking about it because those arseholes shouldn't be in the job.

It might be of benefit to you, but to the rest of us, there is no benefit, well aside for false arrest claims. Now, however, unlike what bent coppers would like, it has to be actually dealt with properly and not the usual brushed under the carpet bollocks. Just like the still blatant racism needs stamping out, this bullshit also needs zero tolerance and actually follow through for a change.

Until that starts to happen why should I respect the police when they are more bent than the "criminals" they arrest. Or those they target for stop and search.

You want my respect? Clean out all that corrupt bullshit.

LoveIsLovely · 11/04/2020 12:23

@PicsInRed Totally agree with everything you said.

LetTheCabbagesDie · 11/04/2020 12:38

I'd like to know what is happening (disciplinary wise) to these officers...

It's not exactly the most challenging piece of legislation a lot of this is quite clearly spelt out.

They are either wilfully ignorant (I.e can't read and comprehend the rules) or acting like bullies, both require disciplinary action.

LilacTree1 · 11/04/2020 12:42

Cabbages I don’t anything is happening. Garden officer was told what the rules were, that’s it.

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chomalungma · 11/04/2020 12:50

hat time he was unlucky, how many other times had he done this without being filmed

Exactly. And you wonder what some of these officers are like elsewhere.

It's a good thing the police wear body cams now.

LetTheCabbagesDie · 11/04/2020 12:58

These replies to the thread were interesting... I sincerely hope a complaint is made by the person who filmed it.

Police tell family they’re not allowed in front garden
Derbygerbil · 11/04/2020 13:06

I'd like to know what is happening (disciplinary wise) to these officers...

The police officer concerned over-reached and apologised. No real harm was done. There’s no need for a disciplinary ffs!

PicsInRed · 11/04/2020 13:11

No real harm was done

Mass loss of trust in police is a terribly grave harm.

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