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Police tell family they’re not allowed in front garden

369 replies

LilacTree1 · 09/04/2020 22:15

Bloody ridiculous

Video and story here

twitter.com/syptweet/status/1248294700827709440

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canigooutyet · 10/04/2020 22:58

They will have lots of policies in place to cover every possible scenario you can think of and many more you haven't considered. There are people who are responsible for this on a daily basis. They will even have a "zombie" protocol for cos you never know.

They generally don't wait until action is needed to create a plan. If they do, they are in the wrong job, same as when the plan is completely ignored.

Emergency services have access to various plans. Even schools do. Anyone remember when schools where on high alert? That plan didn't suddenly materialised from nowhere.

These services get to see a lot more than the general public and are constantly updated.

HeIenaDove · 10/04/2020 23:01

If this is a real police officer the gaslighting is quite worrying.

twitter.com/BustingCrimes/status/1248693749825318913?s=20

I’m really sorry if people feel that the #PoliceState is stopping them exercise or go shopping.

Let’s just ask one of the families of the people that had died, from #COVID19, if these measures are a bit harsh.

Or, try to be legally and morally responsible for your own actions

People dont FEEL that it has happened. It HAS!

Iremembertheelderlykoreanlady · 10/04/2020 23:12

Be kind really has gone out of the window hasn't it?!

Imagine you are this woman, and a mistake you made at work is printed all over the news and internet.

Have you never made a mistake at work?

I know I have.

Yes she was wrong
There has been an apology

I'm really worried about her risk of suicide, and the risk of countless other who risk being filmed by Joe public, whilst trying to do their jobs.

I think this thread should be taken down.

LetTheCabbagesDie · 10/04/2020 23:33

Perhaps the Government should write their guidance into the regulations so that the police can actually enforce it?

LetTheCabbagesDie · 10/04/2020 23:34

But wait, the specifically included gardens, so the governments intentions on the matter is clear. It's the police who need to understand their remit and enforce the laws as they stand, not enforce the ones they wish had been passed.

LilacTree1 · 10/04/2020 23:39

I have a question if anyone can help?

When lockdown is amended, with the legislation be amended? So fir example, would it be clear on the legislation that family visits were permitted, or groups of more than two? When we are legally permitted to sit in a park bench, will we have something in writing to quotev to police?

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LilacTree1 · 10/04/2020 23:41

Helena sorry to be thick but I can’t see which tweet I should be looking at?

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HeresMe · 10/04/2020 23:50

Have you never made a mistake at work?

There is a difference between making a mistake and completely making rules that don't exist up, this was a power trip, and the police got caught out.

This is also Rotherham and South Yorkshire Police there is already a lot of distrust towards the police you think they would try to be building bridges.

HeIenaDove · 10/04/2020 23:56

Lilac it says

*I’m really sorry if people feel that the #PoliceState is stopping them exercise or go shopping.

Let’s just ask one of the families of the people that had died, from #COVID19, if these measures are a bit harsh.

Or, try to be legally and morally responsible for your own actions*

LilacTree1 · 11/04/2020 00:01

Thanks Helena.

I never thought I’d be a “think of the chiiildren” person but now I’m really worried our youngsters are going to inherit a police state.

It was absolutely a power trip. Citizens have to know the law. The police have no excuse for this.

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mrsradley · 11/04/2020 00:27

Well . This place has become more and more hard core anti police since I joined it in 2007.

I'm in that job and right now I'm risking my safety to try and go some way to protecting others .

MNHQ - I won't be paying for a subscription just to watch colleagues and friends be ripped to shreds .
These are real people. With real families. They are human . They are not robots who never ever get it wrong .

I used to give advice very freely and had been here for domestic abuse victims throughout entire nights on this forum. I name change a lot now .

I currently have around 50 emails reporting breaches of the lockdown. So should we ignore three or go ask what's happening?

Most commenting here won't know the area - try taking a walk round those streets at 8pm . There is already a drive to push home the lockdown message in places like Eastwood - nicely - because of how many are flouting it. Many many people living in those areas don't speak English as a first language if at all.

And all those saying the usual about Rotherham child sex abuse - there were no laws that governed these offences prior to the early 2000"S ....if a girl wouldn't talk you were stuck with very limited powers , and yet many many officers did what they could - and still are . Even now I and colleagues are going after those we know committed those offences to try and get justice for those girls.

The police are always the easiest target . I'd like to ask who you'd call if you were victim of crime ?
I and colleagues are still out there , working , dealing with people you have no concept of being able to imagine but everyone is an expert and could do it better?

There aren't many jobs that demand so much yet are so vilified. So many officers are out there doing their level best , with little protective equipment, I heard a piece in the news yesterday that federations were saying frontline officers were seen as collateral damage where covid 19 is concerned due to the absolute lack of enough Ppe.

I know I'm wasting breath in trying to explain.
I know this forum has become more and more militant and anti establishment over the years I've been here .

Maybe all you who can do better should do just that. Put your own arses on the line . Kiss your kids goodbye without knowing when or even if you'll be home .
It's a difficult job. Sometimes, individual human beings get stuff wrong.
Like every other walk of life .
Seeing these threads saddens me and makes me feel like all my sacrifices and triumphs are really quite worthless.

LilacTree1 · 11/04/2020 00:36

“This place has become more and more hard core anti police since I joined it in 2007. “

I’ve only been anti police fairly recently.

I had a boyfriend in the police once, I have sympathy for a lot of what they did. But now with the non crime....this behaviour....2 breakins I reported....their method of getting rid of my report was to be as rude as possible. My boyfriend explained it was so they didn’t have to deal with it or put it in figures, which in my rough part of London, I understand.

But I did think they spent a LOT of time “questioning” me so I could at least get an insurance report, and most of that time was spent snarking at me that the stolen items weren’t expensive. Like if I’d had something expensive, it would have made me more important.

They could have dropped a gentle hint, or just not taken ages to say “yes, well give you a crime number” so I could get my windows fixed in insurance etc.

So who would I call as a victim of crime? No one. I don’t need the police to make me feel worse. Though I suppose if I need a crime ref number I’ll have to.

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mrsradley · 11/04/2020 00:37

And right now In aibu there's threads asking if people should report to police for neighbours flouting the rules .... 🤷🏻‍♀️.

Guess what the replies are.

mrsradley · 11/04/2020 00:41

Anyway. I done with mn. After 14 years.

I don't need to read this shite while I , friends , colleagues and partners are putting their lives on the line for ungrateful people calling my colleagues twat, cunt and worse .

HeIenaDove · 11/04/2020 01:04

Well there are also plenty of threads denigrating social housing tenants and treating them as less than human. And assuming that they are all the same.

mrsradley there are plenty of great officers in the job. In fact one force went out of their way to sing Happy Birthday to a seven year old boy.

No one is slagging off every officer in the force.

But

canigooutyet · 11/04/2020 01:04

Is it aimed at the whole force or just arseholes making shit up that people are being negative about? Massive difference. If someone doesn't want to be shared in this way, simply don't make up utter shite as is the case at the moment.

I don't want officers in the force who erode peoples right from making stuff up. It's not how the legal system should work, same with the corruption. If they cannot be re-trained to work legally then they need to be pushed out.

Oh and btw, education has continuously taken a massive beating from Joe Public for as long as I can remember. Even though they are under no obligation for teaching anything new, the entire industry is currently been ripped to shreds for not teaching anything new.

At least batshit officers are being held accountable for the right reasons.

mrsradley · 11/04/2020 01:13

On Twitter there is an awful lot of racism.

Are they going to go shut the mosque down etc etc .

I can't believe this is what society has come to at a time of national crisis.

Anyway. I'm out . Stay home . Stay safe .
Protect the nhs .

And Try not to be dicks .

LoveIsLovely · 11/04/2020 01:15

@mrsradley It's not an airport you don't need to announce your departure

LilacTree1 · 11/04/2020 01:30

Love, that made me. Lol

There’s a Flouncers’ Corner for people who like announcements

“ In fact one force went out of their way to sing Happy Birthday to a seven year old boy. ”

PR stunt. Whoever spent time thinking that up is the same type who wastes time and money on other guff like non crime crime.

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BubblyBluePebbles · 11/04/2020 01:39

Sorry, haven't RTWT!
What's all this about trolleys being check for non-essentials!?
Even if you're in the supermarket also buying food!?
DP only tagged along with me to Tesco a few days ago, as he was hoping to find a paddling pool for the kids. Fgs! The garden is our saviour at the moment. We've never appreciated having a garden soo much. We're trying to WFH with two primary school aged children.

LilacTree1 · 11/04/2020 01:42

Don’t worry Bubbly

The Home Secretary has confirmed it’s bollocks and the police don’t have the power to do this.

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BubblyBluePebbles · 11/04/2020 02:26

@LilacTree1
Thanks. I thought the Police had better things to do than patrol supermarket trolleys.
Although, I was surprised to see a Dog Unit van parked up in a Aldi car park last week. I arrived late to avoid the crowds and saw it leave just after the store closed. Thought it must be related to the disturbing news reports of NHS workers being taunted because they didn't have to queue and got first dabs at Aldi last week. Crazy times. We'll soon see supermarket lists being published and ranked in order of where you're most likely to get involved in a Covid-19 shopping bust up!

BubblyBluePebbles · 11/04/2020 02:35

Ps. To the actual Shopping Police (not me!)
I usually shop alone. DP drove us to Tesco and was meant to stay in the car. It was 20 mins before closing time when he had a lightbulb moment and rushed into the store to try and find a paddling pool upstairs, whilst I was paying for our 'essential' food items at the tills downstairs.

canigooutyet · 11/04/2020 04:54

Bubbly, shouldn't have to explain the reason you were both there to begin with. But suddenly everyone is having to explain themselves to justify their activities because of nosy people who really need to take this time and find a hobby or something. For all anyone knew, this was a normal essential activity for you to both go shopping. Far too many hard of thinking people around to understand although we are advised to avoid various scenarios, putting it into actual workable practice is not at all possible for some people if they are to have ANY quality of life.

Many, many people on here have stayed a couple of days in the hospital. There you are surrounded by people and that is still incredibly hard to many to have that confinement. "Stir crazy" is real. It can be just as hard if not harder to do this at home.

It's something we simply aren't used to and rarely have we been forced to stay at home. Same with the need to ration food and limit none essentials. People really need to think back to the last time these things happened. I don't remember it happening in my lifetime in the UK to this extent. And when it has happened, there were some life long negative impacts on some people.

chomalungma · 11/04/2020 05:26

Seeing these threads saddens me and makes me feel like all my sacrifices and triumphs are really quite worthless

Do you want to live in a country where the police can't be criticised?

Most police do a great job.
Just like most teachers
Social workers
NHS staff

But no public servant should be allowed to be from criticism if they overstep the mark and break leglisation - especially those whose role it is to enforce the law.

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