Police tell family they’re not allowed in front garden

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Bloody ridiculous

Video and story here

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@womaninatightspot rationing out the plain pasta and tap water

Good God Woman, Don’t you understand what’s happening? You should only be licking condensation from the windows and sucking a dry crust every other day.

My neighbour is ex-police and he said a certain type of cop will be loving the power. School bullies often become police constables.

Wasn't there a 'tweet' sent out by the met saying they felt like 'kids in a sweet shop' (or something similar) when a new policy was put into (their) power?

...trying to find the link, I don't think this is a localised problem.

I also despise that every fuck up/apology from anywhere official now comes with the tagline 'supporting the NHS'....

Anecdotally I hear from friends that the London Met are behaving well, although my husband saw a police car actually driving across Parsons Green (the green itself) yesterday, stopping at a woman sitting with a toddler on the grass. Intimidating, yes? Why not just park the car and walk over, in the usual way?

This isnt the officers fault. This has to come down to training.

It totally was the officers fault. How much training does it need for her not to know something so basic. She made herself look foolish and so unprofessional.

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Why is no one intervening? Your local mp for example!

I also know exactly what you mean, it was all the cigarette butts in the garden, right by the front door that made me think, ok this time wrong but how many other times could it have been right.

Huh? I hate both smoking and littering, but it's perfectly legal both to smoke outside your front door and to drop cigarette butts in your own front garden.

my husband saw a police car actually driving across Parsons Green (the green itself) yesterday, stopping at a woman sitting with a toddler on the grass. Intimidating, yes? Why not just park the car and walk over, in the usual way?

Did they wheel spin to a stop, jump out, tuck and roll shouting 'Freeze punks!!'?

It is all rather vague which lends itself to abuse of authority by a few overzealous policemen/women.

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This isnt the officers fault. This has to come down to training.

She doesn't understand that their front garden is private property??

Did they wheel spin to a stop, jump out, tuck and roll shouting 'Freeze punks!!'?

"I also know exactly what you mean, it was all the cigarette butts in the garden, right by the front door that made me think, ok this time wrong but how many other times could it have been right."

Lovely bit of stereotyping there.

Have we enough information to say whether this is a training issue or whether she was just on a frolic of her own? Either would be worrying!

I wonder (no I don't) if there is any privilege when dealing with the police and how they deal with you.

The leglisation is quite clear. You can see some police getting arsey with some people if they get the leglisation quoted at them.

Thank God for mobile phones. How much abuse of power has gone on before the police could be recorded?

Imagine social media during the Miners strike.

The difficulty is going to be getting redress at the moment.

We also need to remember www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/350/contents/made allows you to go out to exercise. For a toddler (they also have legal rights to go out to exercise) they will be walking at toddler pace and sitting down. If the parent sits down near them I think it would be hard to say that brief rest is not part of exercise when presumably going out to do yoga never mind riding or surf boarding is lawful exercise under those regs.

Noticed no fence and gate at bottom of front garden. We're the DC then not only playing in front garden but on the street as well? We really only seen half the story. He already broke advice by saying he had been up shops and then going out again. So, you all do need to realise that yes, 1000 people are dying a day of Covid. People including officer are stressy but keep that figure( it's actually more than that as people dying in community and in homes like flies) in mind. It will get more. By vending the rules to suit yourselves even in minor ways you will prolong the lockdown and cause many more deaths. Just because you are well dies not mean you can't infect someone. If they had carried on with testing to start with you will all be astonished at number if people that have it and don't realise. Just follow the rules. Don't bend the rules for your convenience. Essential goods to shop. Go shopping once a week not everyday. Simple us as simple as. Stay safe everybody!

You really need to not see spending time in your own property, as the legislation very clearly allows, as vending the rules to suit yourselves. People are not doing anything wrong by doing what is permitted. The other stuff is speculation. And it's this kind of shit from police that will disincline people to actually observe lockdown rules at all. This simply will not work without the consent of the population.

Noticed no fence and gate at bottom of front garden. We're the DC then not only playing in front garden but on the street as well? We really only seen half the story

So what.

People are allowed in their garden.

The police should have maintained a safe distance.

The police should know the law.

Yes I too wonder if there is a back story here and there is more to it than meets the eye.

Yes, yes, let's search for excuses for the unlawful conduct of the poor little police officer.

You can see some police getting arsey with some people if they get the leglisation quoted at them.

Police culture has a very toxic "us vs the world" culture. That's why they consistently behave like such dickheads when challenged or when they have mentally categorised you as unworthy of police time, because they already view non-police as "less than" - so as soon as you stand up for yourself or ask for their time they feel entitled to put you back in your place.

Vulnerable people are used to the police abusing their power. It's just privileged people experiencing it for the first time now. The same people who wouldn't listen and didn't care when vulnerable people tried to speak about their experiences. And clearly still don't care.

He already broke advice by saying he had been up shops and then going out again.

You're the one bending the rules. He said he had been to the shop to buy electricity for the meter. And that he'd be going to the supermarket too. Both of which are, by anyone's standards, essential shopping.

Just follow the rules. Don't bend the rules for your convenience.

I can only assume that's aimed at the police currently inventing legislation that doesn't exist in order to facilitate their power trips.

The police are not above the law and they don't create the law. They do not have powers to make us comply with their personal whims.

It's at times like this I thank fuck that our police aren't armed.
I have seen enough videos from the USA of how the police treat people - especially black people - and the attitude stinks.

The police have to be so careful to maintain public consent in this.

Yes, yes, of course, there's so much more to this story than a police officer inventing rules. Glad the coppers are dealing with these pop-guzzling, chain smoking, non-fence owning rule breakers. Clearly the true criminals of our time.

I don't think people realise that we don't have anything like enough police to enforce this without the consent of the population. Even if the army were to be drafted too, there are 65 million people in this country and if enough of them decide not to observe lockdown then it won't happen. Bullying people on their own property, especially if there's any suspicion it's being done with old scores in mind, is a really good way to get the general population to lose trust in the police.