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Police tell family they’re not allowed in front garden

369 replies

LilacTree1 · 09/04/2020 22:15

Bloody ridiculous

Video and story here

twitter.com/syptweet/status/1248294700827709440

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alloutoffucks · 10/04/2020 00:48

Yes it is the wrong reason to chastise him. And he might be totally innocent.
I just have lived next to a family who were a bloody nightmare and I can imagine the one occasion they were in the right being widely shared on social media, as if they were not a total pain the rest of the time.

WaxOnFeckOff · 10/04/2020 00:52

Even IF hes "got form" she still picked the wrong reason for chastising him.

Absolutely. If you are going to have a go at someone, you need to pick the thing they are actually doing that is wrong to do so. I have no idea if he does or doesn't have form. It could be anything from a malicious report, to a justified report to just a random "spot" by an officer. The guy was completely in the right here.

However, I can't say it must be a particularly easy job.

HeIenaDove · 10/04/2020 00:54

@alloutoffucks yes i know exactly what you mean.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 10/04/2020 00:59

When all this is over do the police really want a local population that resents them (more than is already the case) and isn't inclined to help them or answer questions when needed? Because that's what's going to happen if they keep this shit up.

macaroniandpizza · 10/04/2020 01:00

If im within the fenced area that constitutes my front garden i will stand/sit in it to my hearts content as i am within the boundaries of my property and not bothering anyone else so causing no harm to anyone

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LilacTree1 · 10/04/2020 01:01

Prodigal exactly. And they weren’t exactly winning with the non crime crime stuff.

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Turquoiseeyes · 10/04/2020 01:05

@alloutoffucks
I also know exactly what you mean, it was all the cigarette butts in the garden, right by the front door that made me think, ok this time wrong but how many other times could it have been right.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 10/04/2020 01:17

Have an emergency where you genuinely need the police? Tough luck, they just don't have the resources. Were you rude on Twitter? Oh look, resources suddenly available. Went out into your garden to put the bins out? Watch it, mate, we have our eye on you.

Topseyt · 10/04/2020 02:45

I'm not into police bashing, but there are just too many incidents happening where they are not covering themselves in glory with these new powers . I guess that is a risk you take when legislation is rushed through with no time to debate or digest it properly.

If I want to be in my garden (front or back) with my family then I will do so. There is no legislation against it

Similarly, if I am in the supermarket I will buy whatever I wish of whatever they are selling. The legislation makes no mention of that either.

My late FIL was a police officer for around 30 years. If he were around today he would be astonished at how some police are tackling this.

To be fair, this has been rushed through and dropped on police as well. Most of them are trying to do the job sensibly, but unfortunately it will be the incidents or press conferences where massive howlers have been dropped (you can't be in your garden, we will be checking your supermarket trolley, stop buying Easter eggs etc.) that will, rightly, make news headlines.

TomHardysCBBC · 10/04/2020 03:17

"So I can go and deliberately stand within 2 metres of people as long as I remain on my own property?"

You can deliberately stand within 2 metres of anyone anywhere. It's not advised but it hasn't been suddenly made illegal.

Coyoacan · 10/04/2020 04:05

I saw you coming back from the shop with two cans of pop

The mind boggles at what constitutes a crime nowadays. While lots of major crimes go uninvestigated because of lack of manpower, this police officer seems to have staked out this house for some time.

I totally understand the need for enforcing social distancing, but taking it this level is madness and illegal.

isabellerossignol · 10/04/2020 05:35

I'm not even from England so have no first hand experience of South Yorkshire police but when I hear their name, the first things that come to mind are Hillsborough, the miners strike and the Rotherham grooming gangs. None of which are very flattering towards them. Now I can add telling people not to be in their own front garden. Almost 40 years of bad PR can't make it easy for them to police effectively, you'd think they'd learn that it's easier if they have people's support.

StrangeLookingParasite · 10/04/2020 05:56

This isnt the officers fault. This has to come down to training.

I don't agree with this at all. She's enjoying making up stupid rules.

You surely have to practice to be that obtuse? Common sense would tell you that telling people they're not allowed on their own property was going to be a stupid thing to do?

Sostenueto · 10/04/2020 05:56

Watching the video, I’m intrigued by the “I saw you coming back from the shop with two cans of pop” comment. Has she been following him? Is he known to her? He’s off out again to Aldi, is he perhaps pushing the guidelines to the limit and she knows it and it is pissing her off?

This precisely.

Mummyoflittledragon · 10/04/2020 06:13

Sounds like this is personal, maybe? That would be against all training...

HeresMe · 10/04/2020 06:13

Wait, that was in Rotherham? You'd think someone would have clued the police there in on the fact that if any force needs to go out of its way to try to win back the goodwill of the public it's them. At this point it seems like the only way to fix the police in South Yorkshire would be to sack the whole lot of them and start over again.

Yep it's a few miles from my house in Rotherham.

South Yorkshire police also have Hillsborough and Orgreave under their belts as well as Rotherham, you can see why there is a lot of distrust from the public.

This guy may have antagonised them before but you choose a battle you can win.

ShootsFruitAndLeaves · 10/04/2020 06:26

That 'apology' makes my blood boil.

What is wrong with ' the officer was wrong and we would like to apologise for her behaviour'

Why do they need to stick "we will continue our work to support the NHS" at the end . The NHS has got fuck all to do with it, the officer was wrong end of, and when they stick 'the NHS' in there it just sounds like they are saying 'we are not really sorry'

Taddda · 10/04/2020 06:31

This guy may have antagonised them before but you choose a battle you can win

In other words use this as an opportunity to get the ones who've pissed you off previously....

Too many stories like this atm...

I'm sure they'll apologise and explain on Twitter Hmm

JustVisiting9 · 10/04/2020 06:36

If anyone else is in the same position, quote this paragraph from the
The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020:

For the purposes of paragraph (1), the place where a person is living includes the premises where they live together with any garden, yard, passage, stair, garage, outhouse or other appurtenance of such premises.

That is the actual law, not the Police or a Politician's made up version of the law.

But as others have said, South Yorkshire Police so not a surprise. Rotherham, Hillsborough, Orgreave...

LoveIsLovely · 10/04/2020 06:40

@Coyoacan Right? No money or officers to investigate burglaries and rape, all the time in the world to make sure people are doing their shopping right and not standing in their garden.

Oh and posting on Twitter obviously, always the resources available for that.

MarginalGain · 10/04/2020 06:47

Good points from LizzieSiddal & Heresme re police priorities. They seem to get caught up very visible ‘low fruit’ activities but ignore the complex hard to resolve problems.

Yep.

Watching the video, I’m intrigued by the “I saw you coming back from the shop with two cans of pop” comment. Has she been following him? Is he known to her? He’s off out again to Aldi, is he perhaps pushing the guidelines to the limit and she knows it and it is pissing her off?

Is this meant to be some kind of excuse of police overreach? The police are not meant to be monitoring individual behaviour, and it is not meant to be personal. Honestly I do fear for the future of this country, how will we ever recover from this kind of thinking?

MarginalGain · 10/04/2020 06:49

That 'apology' makes my blood boil.

Me too.

Priti Patel surfaced yesterday to say that the police are not meant to be monitoring shopping baskets. Thanks, Priti. We so appreciate that.

HeresMe · 10/04/2020 06:56

At the bottom of my street in Rotherham at the entrance to a park, there is a group of blokes of a certain ethnicity hang about dealing drugs, where are the police, they sometimes have teenage girls in their cars. Bear in mind this is still happening currently.

South Yorkshire Police knows about them but are still letting the grooming gangs that went on continue.

They are choosing easy targets as always.

MarginalGain · 10/04/2020 06:56

I just have lived next to a family who were a bloody nightmare and I can imagine the one occasion they were in the right being widely shared on social media, as if they were not a total pain the rest of the time.

Is this the new way of thinking? Do you mean that they're rough, underclass social housing dwellers so they must be nightmares and their grievance agains the police is really just a case of a broken clock sometimes getting it right?