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Paris bans all outdoor exercise during the day [title edited by MNHQ]

168 replies

NotEverythingIsBlackandwhite · 07/04/2020 13:34

France has banned daytime outdoor exercise from tomorrow with fines equivalent to £120 for non-compliance. 6 months in prison if you continue to disobey the rule.
www.thesun.co.uk/news/11345945/coronavirus-paris-ban-outdoor-exercise-jail-france/

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Kordelia · 07/04/2020 15:00

Thanks for getting the title changed OP.

Ce sont toutes les pratiques sportives qui sont interdites ; le jogging, bien sûr, mais pas seulement. Cela concerne aussi le yoga en extérieur ou tout sport qui peut se pratiquer dans la rue sera prohibé", a-t-elle expliqué. En revanche, les autres cas dérogatoires prévus sur les attestations, comme la promenade, restent autorisés", a clairement précisé Laëtitia Vallar.

Doesn't this mean that walking is allowed?

CroissantsAtDawn · 07/04/2020 15:00

Hmm just read ILovecake 's link - maybe it is just joggers?

I've read several French newspapers and they all say the individual exercise is banned because of too many joggers...

Even the Paris mayor's office says that.

notimagain · 07/04/2020 15:00

In France I've read that they have drafted loads of extra people into the police with minimal training to enforce the lockdown.

Reference please..

FWIW the Gendarmes plus police total 100,000 plus...Only reference I have seen to the minimally trained is existing cadets being deployed to work alongside experienced Gendarmes/police at roadside checks, but open to correction.

CroissantsAtDawn · 07/04/2020 15:01

Again it is NOT dark in Paris before 10am and after 7pm... My DC go to bed at 8.30pm and have complained vigourously since the hour change as it's "not dark mummy!!!!"

Delatron · 07/04/2020 15:02

Well if people normally go running at 7am to avoid the crowds that won’t happen now as everyone will be out at the same time. Great idea!

CroissantsAtDawn · 07/04/2020 15:03

The line concerned is:
Déplacements brefs, dans la limite d'une heure quotidienne et dans un rayon maximal d'un kilomètre autour du domicile, liés soit à l'activité physique individuelle des personnes, à l'exclusion de toute pratique sportive collective et de toute proximité avec d'autres personnes, soit à la promenade avec les seules personnes regroupées dans un même domicile, soit aux besoins des animaux de compagnie.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 07/04/2020 15:04

Doesn't this mean that walking is allowed?

It does.

En revanche, les autres cas dérogatoires prévus sur les attestations, comme la promenade, restent autorisés"

CroissantsAtDawn · 07/04/2020 15:13

Quote from the Mayor's website:

À compter du 8 avril, les sorties pour des activités sportives individuelles ne seront plus autorisées entre 10h et 19h sur l’ensemble du territoire de Paris.

winnybella · 07/04/2020 15:14

Croissants
I think you’re allowed to go for a walk, at least Le Monde etc seem to think so. Not all ‘Déplacements brefs’ are forbidden, only activité physique, not promenade or dog walking.

winnybella · 07/04/2020 15:16

Liés SOIT au activité physique.... SOIT à la promenade...SOIT aux besoins des animaux de compagne.

emmathedilemma · 07/04/2020 15:16

I sure this just makes more people go out early morning or in the evening? There's practically no different in the number of people out running and walking at 7am compared to later in the day near me.

winnybella · 07/04/2020 15:17

Only the first kind of déplacements is forbidden

Baboomtsk · 07/04/2020 15:20

I think that further restrictions on exercise are unlikely and would be unwise. The benefits from a marginally reduced risk of infection would, for most people, likely be outweighed by all sorts of negative health impacts associated with lack of daylight and exercise.

From my own observations (living in a large city, not London), it appears that the majority are abiding by the rules and socially distancing appropriately. Where this isn't the case then police and councils should by all means work together to tackle problem areas.

I think it's also important to bear in mind that the restrictions that the UK has in places are more typical of most countries than those of Italy and Spain which are outliers in terms of the strictness of their rules around exercise and there's no evidence that banning outdoor exercise has made a significant difference to their infection rates.

In sum, the risks of greater infection from outdoor exercise in accordance with social distancing rules are low or at worst uncertain. On the other hand, we can be quite confident that there will be significant, negative consequences of a prolonged ban on outdoor exercise.

One final thought on this: unless the data indicates that the existing measures have not had the desired effect on the trajectory of the infection rates, I can't see that there can be any justification for tightening restrictions. As of yet, insufficient time has elapsed since the introduction of social distancing measures to make that judgement.

TheArchSorcererofContwaraburg · 07/04/2020 15:24

But what about the dogs? Won't someone think of the dogs?!

Hettie34 · 07/04/2020 15:28

Theres no point banning excercise in the UK.

Fine people breaking the rules. But don't punish the rest of us.

We are only slowing the spread to help the NHS. When restrictions are lifted many of us will be expected to catch it to get herd immunity anyway. The vunerable should be inside for 12 weeks.

People are still touching trolleys etc when they shop. This virus isn't going anywhere and sadly many of us will become poorly or die from it. Kids will be left without parents etc. If we take away the excercise we will have many new health issues. People live in flats etc. Remember this lockdown is not to protect us. It's to protect the NHS from having all of us at once. We need a little something. Considering most of us are following the rules.

winnybella · 07/04/2020 15:30

www.nouvelobs.com/confinement/20200407.OBS27185/paris-jogging-interdit-entre-10h-et-19h-masques-en-tissu-offerts-les-annonces-d-anne-hidalgo.html

If you scroll down, there’s a tweet from mayor’s adjoint that it’s jogging that is banned, not going for a walk

CroissantsAtDawn · 07/04/2020 15:30

Just went onto Le Monde website: this one caught my eye:

In biarritz you are banned from sitting on a bench longer than 2 minutes Grin

Stefoscope · 07/04/2020 15:34

For those saying they hope it comes to the UK, do you not think people would continue to ignore the ban if they're that hellbent on going to the park or the beach to sunbathe or whatever? Surely the answer is to better enforce the rules regarding gatherings which we already have and issue fines to the ones who refuse to comply.

Lordfrontpaw · 07/04/2020 15:36

People who say they want it obviously don’t live in small flat with kids or with no garden/outside space.

Stop the sightseers and picnicers!

loobyloo1234 · 07/04/2020 15:39

We’ve had everything else taken away from us it would be nice if we were allowed to keep the exercise up. I’m not in a built up city though so is it fair we’re all punished for a minority? Hopefully not

Lordfrontpaw · 07/04/2020 15:42

They do need to just police things more - the 2m rule is not kept and you see so many people just sitting on the grass with their friends (they can’t all be flat mates!) as if it was a bank holiday.

MamaBearOnLockdown · 07/04/2020 15:48

I’m not in a built up city though so is it fair we’re all punished for a minority?

absolutely not fair, and I do hope the minority finally get fined and we can keep what's left of our freedom.

People are arguing for the right to bend the rules as much as they possibly can on other threads - are they selfish or really thoughtless?

daisychain01 · 07/04/2020 15:50

I'd be happy to go out on my bike at 7am and get back home before the start of the restriction (if that was what it would be in UK).

What isn't clear is whether it would only be in densely populated cities. I live in a rural location where I see 2 individuals and several sheep while out on a ride (the sheep were not observing social distance but I think they're exempt).

daisychain01 · 07/04/2020 15:52

I don't see it as any "punishment" or sacrifice to go out early in the morning, it's a very small price to pay to reduce risk.

loobyloo1234 · 07/04/2020 15:54

I don’t know what’s happened in Paris to push this but I walk daily. Sometimes I go to pick up food when I need it (not daily) That’s my life right now. Taking one of those away will send me round the bend