Exercise could be banned - Matt Hancock

[LittleRen]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52172035

"Matt Hancock told the BBC's Andrew Marr that the government would "take action" if further measures are needed to bring the coronavirus under control.

It comes after reports of groups of people gathering in parks during sunny weather this weekend."

So do we think this will happen - normally this is how it goes, the threat comes, and a week later it's reality. It's a shame that people still flouted the rules this weekend :(

I can't see a thread on this already but please let me know if there is one!!

Why don't you lot understand.
This virus has a shelf life of 3 weeks.
It can live max 3 weeks before it dies, because it is a chemical compound.
This is why washing kills it.
After this time with no new cases in an area, we could have released lockdown in virus free areas.
But oh no, let's go running/out.
Do you understand , 3 weeks from last case...... It would have killed it's self.

My friends in France are getting their certificates off the internet, if you have no printer you copy it out by hand.

My friend in rural France say the army are stopping folk who might try to abuse the lockdown on her b roads.

People are so unbelievably stupid. Asking things like "why are people only deciding to exercise now", "only just realising the benefits of a family walk".

Do you seriously think we all just sat on our arses 7 days a week prior to Coronavirus? Ffs.

Before all of this I went out everyday to work, I walked my children to school. In the evening I went swimming, my children had swimming lessons, they played sports. On the weekend we might take a day out, the dc would play with friends.

We were generally quite active, now our only option is a walk round our local area. So yes you might see us more on our little walk, but that doesn't mean we are only just realising the benefits of exercise.

@ChardonnaysPetDragon yes you download it yourself, though you can write it by hand if you don't have a printer (we have been printing for our neighbour). I think the fact that you have to carry ID at all times in France establishes the mindset of carrying official papers. I gather we are getting a mobile phone version tomorrow which will issue a code for gendarmes to check.

mummmy2017 oh how I wish you were right.

Sadly though you are completely wrong.

Why don't the police enforce the existing rule instead of bringing in insane levels of lockdown?
Over 25 thousand people are killed or seriously injured in Road Accidents in the UK annually. About 1700 of those are deaths
If you want people to drive more safely you ban drink driving, bring in speed cameras, fine people driving unsafe cars etc you don't ban all cars because Bob down the road drives home from the pub. FFS.

I think the gendarmes will be recording the registration of everyone they stop.

Thanks!

That clears things up.

@Blakes77

There are not enough police to stop every person who flouts the rules.

It wouldn’t surprise me if they ban exercise. The guidelines on exercise have been too open to interpretation. People are interpreting them to suit themselves. And obviously also just being dicks and breaking them completely.

@mummmy2017 many people are still having to go out to work. You are talking about 100% total lockdown which just couldn’t happen.

Rather than introduce a stricter lockdown we should be relaxing the existing one with sensible precautions. Anyone in a vulnerable group should ‘voluntarily’ remain locked down until herd immunity has been achieved.

The effects of our current actions are soon going to be worse in the long term than the virus

In Italy there have only been 100 more deaths in March 2020 than in 2019. This lock down is totally unsustainable and will kill far more
People than the virus does. There will be so much unrest if they ban exercise and frankly they can fuck off.

Random18.
Wish I could find the article, but it was being explained that this virus is chemical so cold doesn't kill it.
They said it was dead after 3 weeks from on surfaces.
This would leave people who were ill symptoms would show by 3 weeks.

The ID card proposal was ditched when Labour was beaten by the Tories. For good reason too. There is no fucking way I am going to be forced to gave an app on my phone.

Are they going to lock all the No App dissenters up? Cant believe some idiot thinks we should be issued with phones. Some people don't actually understand the freedoms we have. People died in wars fighting for their freedoms and against tyranny. Don't just give it away ffs.

There are not enough police to stop every person who flouts the rules.
Well, it depends very much what you consider "flouting"
People walking twice a day somewhere quiet- probably not enough police.
These alleged large rowdy groups partying all night? Yes, given how damn quiet everywhere is I think there are enough coppers to issue a fine.

Anyone in a vulnerable group should ‘voluntarily’ remain locked down until herd immunity has been achieved.

What is the word voluntarily placed in inverted commas? It's either voluntary or it's not.

Anyone remember this nursery rhyme

Don’t care didn’t care,
Don’t care was wild:
Don’t care stole plum and pear
Like any beggar’s child.

Don’t care was made to care,
Don’t care was hung:
Don’t care was put in a pot
And boiled till he was done.

Was thinking more, isolating towns.
Cordons round areas, if your area is virus free you can all carry on as normal.
Getting everyone to act as a community, like the hill top village in France.

I am with you @echt

The government fucked up and we are the ones to blame.
Not only that, but we start policing each other. Unbelievable

MH, I agree.

It's shocking just how quickly we've adapted to our freedom being taken away. We all say nazi Germany will never happen to us - yet we're blindly following the guidelines, and reporting on our neighbours who break them. It's truly scary.

This is in no way like Nazi Germany.

I live in sheltered housing with elderly people. Many of them are completely ignoring the rules about social distancing.

Some have little going on in their life and meeting up with friends and family is the only thing they have to look forward to.

Over the last couple of weeks I have endured tenants here calling me hysterical and ridiculous as they invade my space and one especially disgusting notorious bully coughed in my face and entered a small space with me in it, purely to cause me distress.

I have done my absolute best to adhere to social distancing but I have on a few occasions gone out 3 times in a day. I cannot get online shopping delivered and I have to go out and buy food. I do not have a car.

Today I thought I managed to got online shopping sorted, spent 2 hours online putting items in my basket, then when I tried to organise delivery there were no slots available.

If I go to the supermarket and it looks busy I just go back home. It is a 5-10 minute walk from my flat. Then I try later hoping it will be less busy.

One time it looked OK, I joined a queue and had to leave when the woman in front of me started smoking some vile roll up that smelled so foul that I suspect it was made of recycled butts. When I asked her whether she could not smoke as it was making me ill she screamed abuse at me and I left in tears. I went back to the shop later when, thankfully, it was quieter.

The trouble is one day will be quiet at one time, another day it will be busy. Some of us are in an impossible position.

I have asthma, a heart condition and other medical conditions and am on the borderline, classed as ""vulnerable" but not in the shielded group.

I go out to exercise most days, thankfully I live in a rural place with natural resources nearby. There is a communal garden where I live but it is full of tenants smoking and not complying with SD so I cannot exercise there.

I phoned the police about my neighbour recently. I could have phoned them about lots of neighbours. The neighbour I phoned the police about has a new continual dry cough and has had it for several days. She is not a bad person, she has the mental age of a child. I can hear her coughing through the walls. It only stops when she goes out to socialise in town. She looks very unwell, it is very scary. WTF should I do in such a situation? If she has the virus she is putting the lives of many people at risk.

The thing that really, really got my goat was that yesterday, on my way back from exercising I saw a woman with heavy shopping bags near my flat. At a safe distance I asked her whether it was busy at the shop. We spoke for a couple of minutes, all at a distance. I looked up and the bully who coughed in my face was holding her phone in my direction and appeared to be filming me.

I think it is acceptable to phone the police if people are doing really bad things like going out when they have symptoms. The trouble is that all kinds of people will abuse the situation because of their own grievances.

I feel sorry for the police because whatever they do people will complain. Comparing the UK to Nazi Germany and the polie to the Stasi is nuts

They are not banning exercise, you can put on you tube tutorials and exercise to your hearts content in your home.

MH1111- I agree wholeheartedly. I am very concerned about the long term effects of this. We are worried about the NHS now, but if we have a huge recession, surely funding in the future will be much more problematic. Also, it is my understanding that the furlough scheme only lasts for three months. Will it be extended I wonder if we haven't found a way out of this by then? But there's the suggestion of tighter restrictions. I am very, very worried about the future.