Exercise could be banned - Matt Hancock

[LittleRen]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52172035

"Matt Hancock told the BBC's Andrew Marr that the government would "take action" if further measures are needed to bring the coronavirus under control.

It comes after reports of groups of people gathering in parks during sunny weather this weekend."

So do we think this will happen - normally this is how it goes, the threat comes, and a week later it's reality. It's a shame that people still flouted the rules this weekend :(

I can't see a thread on this already but please let me know if there is one!!

He won't ban exercise, he's just putting pressure on people ignoring the rules

@mindproject

There are hundreds of thousands of Freemasons. I'm sure they're all still meeting up in their temples. Bet there's one near you. It's not a fantasy

They had ALL meetings cancelled weeks ago. Stop making up utter fucking nonsense.

Same here with dogs as well as families. All of a sudden families are pounding the pavements five abreast. It’s a shame that it has taken this for people to recognise the benefit of a family walk once a day

Fuck me, no! That, will be awful. Totally awful. Getting out of the house with the dog is the only pleasure left.

If the government does impose the no exercise rule, I hope they give us a very good, scientific basis for it.
Does it mean that the previous hour per day advice was wrong?
I know a lot of posters on here are saying that it's justified because of a minority flouting the rules but that doesn't make sense to me. Do you not just police the existing rules?
Please could one of you who agrees with further restrictions as the answer explain this to me?

Granny a nurse in world war 2, London her children were sent away to the country, grandpa with lung problems carried out air raid assistance, he saw people into safe places at night, during the day he helped to dig out the living and dead. Granny would nurse the survivors and mourn those that perished. If our grand parents coped with no NHS which was launched in 1948, no mental health assistance, samaritans, charities except for the church when you needed food, rent, then it seems to me that granny who would be tickled to see lycra clad men and women demanding their rights to exercise, ditto sunbathers, she always said that was mad.

Read your bloody history folks and see how far we have come since then and stop whining.

Chardonnay. I hVe a home and friends in France. I am stuck in UK just now. Only the British could bd this suspicious!

These can be checked by police and immediate fines. I am not sure but I think it is something you download so no chan e of using it a second time. Timings will be on it. It is working well in my city

Not sure how you know that for sure. Do tell.

They do need to police those flouting the rules and if certain parks are getting too busy they need locking to prevent access.

Oh sorry, I was genuinely curious how the certificate thing works, I've read about it, but I can't see the logistics.

If you're out, and you're checked, you have to have your mobile on you. If you don't have one, you should be issued with a device.

I guffawed at first. But you're actually serious, aren't you?

What was that old saying about people getting the governments they deserve? The problem is, they end up foisting them on the rest of us too.

The healthier people are, the more likely they are to fight off a C19 infection without needing hospitalisation. And we’ve known since the big public health pushes in Victorian times and post First World War that that means healthy, varied food, sunlight and exercise. That doesn’t change because of C19.

What’s essential in terms of the bare minimum to keep someone alive for a month or so is not what’s essential to keep a healthy population in the long term.

And your 23 year old who died on Friday?

What about all the young and healthy people who will (not might, will) committee suicide as a direct result of the bankruptcy/financial ruin that this lockdown will bring?

What about the premature deaths of the poor and vulnerable who will suffer as our life expectancy falls because of the recession?

You are only seeing one side of this.

I do agree that there is a case for tightening the existing rules to something like:

-No more than 2km from your home.
-No more than 1 hour
-Having to carry paperwork (or something on your phone) to prove when you went out and that it's your only exercise of the day.
-Making it clear that picnics/sunbathing etc are not allowed.

I think we could try something like this with very clear rules before banning exercise altogether.

One of the problems with banning exercise completely is that we may then see more people going to the shops, if that is the last reason left that they are allowed to leave their homes- and this is, again, a greater transmission risk.

The governments final aim is to be able to blame the public for everything. It’s a load of bollocks!

In my opinion this is a red herring.
Carers are still entering the homes of the elderly without PPE - they visit 20 or more homes a day.
Paramedics attending suspected Covid cases are wearing no masks or according to my sister in law - observing hand washing rules.
Frontline Staff still do not have enough PPE.
Public transport is still much too crowded!

@ChardonnaysPetDragon there are gendarmes who stop people and check the certificate. You need a new one every time you leave the house and you put the reason for being out, date and time you left the house on it. If your journey does not match the certificate then it is 135€ for the first offence and goes up steeply after that. Huge numbers of fines have been issued.

And finally we need to self isolate for 14 days according to WHO rather than the 7 days we are currently being asked to isolate for!

They need to shut down non-essential industry before they do this.

I will be very surprised if people meekly accept an exercise ban while still being expected to get on public transport alongside frontline workers to travel to some non-essential shitjob where distancing is difficult or impossible.

@justasking111

Most people (on the home front) apart for a very short period of WW2 didn't get bombed or live in air raid shelters.
They could go about their lives, have affairs, mix and go down the pub, as for exercise, walking and cycling to work was very common.

People did not "cope" without an NHS, they died in their homes of illnesses we now either don't knon about or are easily cured, they suffered greatly from MH issues but got sent away to large Victorian institutions and suffered greatly.

My mums relocollection of WW2 wasn't death or bombing but the stench of her grannies incontinence and helping her mum wash sheets on a dolly board and trapped fingers in a mangel, that and egg powder! she hated eggs to her dying day.

@ChardonnaysPetDragon there are gendarmes who stop people and check the certificate. You need a new one every time you leave the house and you put the reason for being out, date and time you left the house on it. If your journey does not match the certificate then it is 135€ for the first offence and goes up steeply after that. Huge numbers of fines have been issued.

Thanks, how do you get a certificate? Do you print it off yourself off the internet or are they like sent you you?

Why should those of us without mobile phones be issued with "devices?"

What next chip implants? It is scary how this is going.

If the old or feckless die why would any government be worried, the planet is overpopulated so it is an adjustment. It has happened before.

Because if you have a new one everytime you can just print one, use it, go home, print a new one and go out again, and just hope you won't come across the same gendarme.