Do you think lockdown will end next week?

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just musing really, my DP is adamant it will end next week

Going to be months....

September. At least.

On my walk the dog allowed exercise I walk past a golf course, a group of about 20 kids had broken in and were having a party, another house had a big bbq going on, 6 cars in the drive, 2 on the street.

Whilst people act like dicks they will make life worse for the rest of us.

Absolute I agree, there are a lot of people who ARE safe in their homes so what you said was spot on. Pish was wrong to flame you.

Domestic Violence is going to be a big problem in lockdown with existing issues and newly developed ones as people’s mental health starts failing and people turn on eachother. For the greater good people must stay at home but for some I’m sure they would rather take their chances with the virus than live in hell.

Pish maybe not nailed in apartments but their society has started collapsing due to economic pressures from cash in hand workers and there is no end in sight for easing lockdown either.

well obviously could happen but I think it's extremely unlikely to be over that quickly!
Then again how long before we have civil unrest?

Whilst people act like dicks they will make life worse for the rest of us

Thing is taking those 20 kids may be clean. The checkout staff however may be showing or feeling no symptoms.whatso ever.

We know bugger all about this thing really. You cant blame people like.that.

Of this thing came from bats then how did the bats get it they dont even go near people. Maybe it's in their food chain too in which case it could he on the soil/ground/meat feed cycle who knows...

We are acting ok assumptions and what seems reasonably logical theories but we dont really know...

UY they sat 9 meals away from civil unrest so hopefully they can keep it at bay.

I am concerned that looting will be an issue with all the addicts and beggars in towns and cities who are going to literally have nothing as their income streams dry up.

I've not rtft but in the nicest possible way, are you on crack????

We will be informed when the lock down ends.!!!!

And theres also the fa t that alot of these measures well they should be common.practice anyway.

Kids in schools should be washing their hands. The means to remain hygienic should always he available.

No one should have to attend work or school sick. It used to be the case but now Ofsted come knocking or bosses women up one day and decided all their staff are hungover not sick.

Theses haven't changed nor will they even after this I expect.

Do we need lock down to teach us this?

Bosses woke up

Sorry it's late...fat thumbs

@Absolutepowercorrupts

No high horse or lecturing from me.

My point was that abuse will be more dangerous for some than COVID19. You seem to have made that all about you. It's not.

@frumpety the field hospitals are being built so that restrictions can be lifted.. Once they aree all open it drastically increases the ICU capacity of the country and then we will see restrictions lifted in the hope of gaining herd immunity. Meanwhile the NHS has much more at its disposal to deal with another spike without having to put in restriction again as this will tank the economy and cause more deaths than the virus!

Absolutely not - will be a total of 12 weeks unless we see significant changes in the numbers

Absolutely not - will be a total of 12 weeks unless we see significant changes in the numbers

And if there is no change in numbers ?

Will there be a point where perhaps it might be time to admit it's not working?

Disclaimer-i dunno of it will or wont work however I think that possibility needs to be explored in a way that doesnt involve introducing things that have yet to he proven really actually work. I.mean numbers may have fallen during lock downs but its still early days as far as knowing its not gonna go right back to where it was.

How long and how many times are we really able to do this

No ok way. Let's see what happens when it's sunny tomorrow

Well I just got deployed to nhs nightingale so I don't think its over any time
Soon

I think they may loosen the restrictions only once they have all the Nightingale hospitals up and ready, PPE in place, NHS workers tested and working if possible, as many ventilators as they think they need.

Then I think they will lift restrictions. Starting with work, and possibly - scaled return so not busy. Also being discussed is timed curfews to try to control times when people are out. So that social contact is still reduced from normal but not as rare as now.

Vulnerable and elderly people will still be asked to stay home for the full 12 weeks though. The governement are so worried about the public relations fiasco of lots of older and already ill people getting iller with very little hope of survival even with ventilator and having to either be refused into hospital or if they are allowed in then the whole 'bed blockers' thing while younger or fitter people cannot get in.

Damned if they do and damned if they don't. Not really a winnable situation here. Whatever they do some people are not going to like it.

Most of them appear to be on Mumsnet too!

I don't think we can come out of lockdown until there is proper testing and tracing.

I think the earliest would be end May and latest 3rd week of June. Not in next 3 weeks.

With regards to testing now will.that work? Cos surely all it shows is that at the point the test was taken you didnt have it.

If you are dealing with corona patients you could catch it any time surely? So hy time the results are back it could be wrong?

Beginning of June, if we are lucky.

People who want to can still choose to stay home and maintain social distancing while the less rigorous among the population will be out becoming the 'herd' for herd immunity. I would expect the death rate then to be less than 1% as (hopefully) the more vulnerable stay isolated.

Obviously the vulnerable that need personal/social care, cannot isolate and so many of them inevitably will either get it or suffer with neglect. It is a tough situation.

Totally fascinating on so many levels though, science, social behaviour, online behaviour, the statistics. I am loving the statistics. Feel like I am back in college trying to understand all the different ways the data is displayed and sorted and used to model.

No, They are going to extend it. BBC is preparing kids educational programs to cover 12 weeks. This gave me the hint that kids wont be going to school any time sooner. Probably not even anytime this year. Almost all the institutions are running programs for kids assuming it is going to last longer. I feel sorry for the kids.

scaled return so not busy. Also being discussed is timed curfews to try to control times when people are out. So that social contact is still reduced from normal but not as rare as now

What do you mean by scaled return? If you are open people will.come surely ? The same person cant open and close a shop that's open from say 6am-11am by themselves and for staff safety reasons 2 will be needed.

As for times curfews well that will make stuff worse wont it.

My job finishes late . When I walk home I'm.usually alone. Inwoyod probably encounter more people if everyone is suddenly heading home for 10.30 as opposed to spacing it out throughout the day/evening/night.

Some of the measures now are making people have to go out more and visit more shops