People demanding a full lock down

[Londongirl88888]

It really really annoys me! Most of us are following rules. Not even going for a walk most days. People are kicking off on my local corna page that theres more cars in town today. So they now think we need a full lock down.

Firstly it's the weekend. More people will be shopping due to being at work all week? People might be shopping for other family and dropping it off.

Theres a police statement that the a52 is really quiet and they are saying well done for listening.

People are allowed out for walks. It's important for dogs, children and adults to get air and move around. It should be one walk a day. It can't be controlled if 400 people choose to do just that between 1-2pm or only 30 do. So yes the streets may sometimes show more people. But most of them are probably just going for a walk. The only thing we have left for our minds and health.

I'm not talking about people having picnics,
Travelling for an afternoon walk somewhere,
Sneaking to see family unless they need help.

I'm saying the majority of people are going to be doing the decent thing.

I think rather than fully locking us down fine the minority sat in groups and doing the "wrong" things. Give them a full lockdown but don't punish the many decent people.

The parents/people in flats without gardens need to walk

Young children need to move.

We all need to move about.

Also i wish people would stop getting in a rage about cars being out. There are no online shopping slots. So thousands of locals will need to go out for food each week. Milk and bread etc will need buying for many every few days. Pet food needs buying. Prescriptions need collecting. Workers need to go to and from work.

A huge majority of people are following the rules. I'm sick of everyone being put into the same category. My kids have gone for their 3rd walk in two weeks just now with their dad. I'm sure people will be tutting and presuming we are another family out and not listening. They need to get out for 15 minutes today though. They are starting to climb the walls and get bored.

Far too many irate people at the moment.

Gov.co.uk says:

1. Staying at home

You should only leave the house for very limited purposes:

shopping for basic necessities, for example food and medicine, which must be as infrequent as possible.

My local shop, which I walk to, has limits so two loaves of bread and 4 pints of milk per person. With a two and a three year that can’t last a fortnight.
Or maybe we should deny children calcium as well as vitamin d

Well done you, karen, that's the spirit 🥳😂😂

The advice is to only shop that much

No it isn't. The advice is to shop as infrequently as possible. That's going to mean different things depending on your circumstances. If you live in a large house with a massive fridge, chest freezer and outbuildings you might be able to get away with once a fortnight. If you live in a tiny flat with no storage and no freezer you'll probably not be able to go less than twice a week.

Wonder if all the parents insisting kids need to go out every single day also insist on it during the winter months when it's fucking it down with rain and sleet.

We don't have a garden, and are out every day. Whatever the weather.

monkey, those DC leave the house 5/7 to go out. To school. And perhaps 3 evenings a week to clubs. Plus maybe sport at a weekend. Seeing family.

It surely cannot be that hard to grasp that sweeping all that away leaves you with A Daily Walk.

shopping for basic necessities, for example food and medicine, which must be as infrequent as possible.

Why can't people realise that peoples' circumstances are different? Not everyone can get away with going shopping once a fortnight for example, either because of lack of storage, they are physically unable to do a big shop or they simply can't afford it. Some people will have to go weekly, others maybe twice weekly.

There's some really unpleasant name calling on here on both sides of the argument #bekind

Wonder if all the parents insisting kids need to go out every single day also insist on it during the winter months when it's fucking it down with rain and sleet... Cause I don't see many around in those months tbh

Erm, kids that walk to school and nursery 5 days a week?! My children walk two miles a day to nursery and back, plus weekends we walk the dog, whatever the weather.

Can’t actually believe what I’m reading and that people are saying bread and milk are not essentials

That's because they arent saying they are not essentials. People are saying they're not essential every single day.

It isn't what you buy it's how often you buy. It's the frequency of going in shops that the govenrment is advising against.

We've had days with no milk or bread (apart from pitta bread in the freezer) and could easily go to the corner shop but why risk it when it can wait a day or 2, until one the 1 big shop. Its doubling the risk of exposure.

(Though it doesn't matter how many times posters try to explain about non essential frequent shop visits, it just gets ignored)

I think we need to weigh this all up. The effect on mental health of a more serious lockdown will be huge. What about people who live in small flats? Without gardens? On their own? My understanding is that most people will get this sooner or later, it’s just preventing a hospital overload that we are trying to avoid.

That's because they arent saying they are not essentials. People are saying they're not essential every single day.

People are say they aren't essentials on this thread and others.

Totally agree OP!!

"I wonder how many people actually have experience of living like this. Like Derry was in the 80s. On our estate the army even used to shut down the road for the meter reader. If they had experienced it. They wouldnt want it."

I realise this point was made a while ago, but this is so true. Belfast in the 70s anyone? We do not want the army back on the streets in any part of the UK.

Not everyone can do a ‘big shop’ because they WALK

Not everyone can store in freezers because they HAVEN'T ROOM

Not everyone can shop fortnightly because they CAN’T AFFORD TO

For all those people worried about people 'coughing' outside near them- coughing doesn't necessarily mean that they have Covid-19. I cough a lot, all through the year due to my asthma/allergies. I cough if I go from a warm place to a cold place and the other way round. I cough if I've been talking a lot. I cough if I have been running and stop. I cough in the morning, when I lie down at night and other times too!
I don't have Covid-19. I'm sure there are other people that are coughing that also don't have Covid-19. Actually, some may even have already had it and still have the cough from it, as coughs can take some time to go away. It doesn't mean that they're infectious or spreading 'the virus'.

clarcats I'm the same. I'll be coughing from February to September and I'm taking 2 or 3 antihistamines a day as I'm worried what people will think.

Agree compl

Agree completely OP.

MonkeyToes kids do go out every day in the Winter...to school!

Or maybe we should deny children calcium as well as vitamin d

Exactly - my Twitter year old gets through a it of milk. I’m being forced to go out more than needed so he has a drink as he doesn’t like water

We're being encouraged NOT to buy loads of stuff when we're at the shop. No more than x3 of anything. Sometimes no more than 1. Shops can cope as long as we buy our usual amount ect. ''These hording bastards'' ect. Fair enough.

BUT - hold on - then again - shop infrequently everyone!

These 2 things just don't add up.

Two year old*

People are say they aren't essentials on this thread and others

People are saying they are not essential every day.

Its nice to know you have milk in the fridge for the morning. For your coffee and bran flakes or whatever, but if you are capable of doing a big shop once a week, is it worth the risk of going to the corner shop when you run out the day before the big shop is due?

To me it just isnt worth it. I'd drink the coffee black, forget the toast and find something else for breakfast. Because the most likely place for most people now of picking up the virus, or spreading the virus, is in a shop or store. Is it worth the insistence of daily bread and milk? When it can wait a while

I don't think full lock down is needed. We just need people to listen and stop being stupid. My neighbour, who is elderly and lives alone. His family, keeps coming to visit. This last week, not as much as the first week. But they shouldn't visit at all. Its not just dropping food off for him. Then another neighbour, has had a guy over on his motorbike to visit,agai goes in the house. As someone posted on Facebook, we face 2 outbreaks, covid 19 and stupidity. Unfortunately, we have had Stupidity longer.