People demanding a full lock down

[Londongirl88888]

It really really annoys me! Most of us are following rules. Not even going for a walk most days. People are kicking off on my local corna page that theres more cars in town today. So they now think we need a full lock down.

Firstly it's the weekend. More people will be shopping due to being at work all week? People might be shopping for other family and dropping it off.

Theres a police statement that the a52 is really quiet and they are saying well done for listening.

People are allowed out for walks. It's important for dogs, children and adults to get air and move around. It should be one walk a day. It can't be controlled if 400 people choose to do just that between 1-2pm or only 30 do. So yes the streets may sometimes show more people. But most of them are probably just going for a walk. The only thing we have left for our minds and health.

I'm not talking about people having picnics,
Travelling for an afternoon walk somewhere,
Sneaking to see family unless they need help.

I'm saying the majority of people are going to be doing the decent thing.

I think rather than fully locking us down fine the minority sat in groups and doing the "wrong" things. Give them a full lockdown but don't punish the many decent people.

The parents/people in flats without gardens need to walk

Young children need to move.

We all need to move about.

Also i wish people would stop getting in a rage about cars being out. There are no online shopping slots. So thousands of locals will need to go out for food each week. Milk and bread etc will need buying for many every few days. Pet food needs buying. Prescriptions need collecting. Workers need to go to and from work.

A huge majority of people are following the rules. I'm sick of everyone being put into the same category. My kids have gone for their 3rd walk in two weeks just now with their dad. I'm sure people will be tutting and presuming we are another family out and not listening. They need to get out for 15 minutes today though. They are starting to climb the walls and get bored.

Far too many irate people at the moment.

You'll find it hard to spend your cash when shops go contactless only

Some of don't have contactless cards

“ I honestly think some people should just get their applications in to emigrate to China or North Korea now.”

Agree.

What's your point? This isn't France or Italy. We're allowed to go out shopping every day under the current guidelines.*

Wow, aren’t you hard work.

You can exercise once a day.

You are meant to go to the shops as infrequently as is possible. They are trusting people to use common sense.

Point is if people keep going shopping everyday just because the law says they can, they will be forced to impose a new law that says you can’t.

Common sense and relative freedom will be taken out of the equation, because of idiots who insist on going out every day to grab a loaf

My question is how do they know - the answer s invariably I just popped to the shop, or I was out walking - same as the rest of the buggers out there in fact so pot and kettle issue

I understand the shopping more frequently or exercising particularly with small dc

Not understanding non family gatherings or people flouting the rules to have a bbq for example.

I hate going out now and feel anxious in a supermarket

Wow, aren’t you hard work.

Jesus Christ, you again

The only people against stricter measures are the ones flouting the current ones.

Just another variation on the dangerous old chestnut "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear". Naive in the extreme and the thin end of the wedge of begging for a police state before long at all.

A full lock down likely wouldn't reduce the overall death rate tbh.

Domestic violence, neglecting or not being able access treatment for current health problems, less or no exercise, excessive alcohol consumption etc etc will cause deaths now and in the future.

I want to still use cash after this as at least it's not tracked like a card. Not that I have anything to hide

Also, what’s wrong with having a lie down in the sun after your exercise?

I run and then dawdle home. If someone tells me off, it will be an MNer.

An elderly person might need to sit down mid walk.

Wow, aren’t you hard work.

What's that supposed to mean?

I said I go shopping every few days and you got snotty and started quoting regulations in France and Italy. Which is entirely irrelevant since my behaviour is entirely permissable under current UK guidelines.

No I’m not flouting the rules. I only go shopping once a week, a walk every day and work from home. Don’t want stricter rules because we don’t need them. The current ones are working and by and large being adhered to.

Scary “ I want to still use cash after this as at least it's not tracked like a card. Not that I have anything to hide”

Ditto.

I made a point of using cash occasionally when I heard rumblings of a cashless society.

@icedpurple where does it say you can go shopping every day?

The relevant question is: Where does it say you can't?

I wouldn't say 'infrequent' covers everyday?

Another word is rare/rarely which means the same thing. Every day does not constitute that.

Also confused as to why you'd need 'essentials everyday' even with OP and others updates how you'd go through a whole loaf, milk (even if not frozen) and cereal eggs etc everyday is not normal? What you mean @IcedPurple is that you go out for the hell of it, you walk by it so pop in, that is not infrequent or fair on shop workers but hey ho

The law says essential shopping is permitted. No other restrictions.

*The military, fully armed with automatic rifles, should be deployed to every town to keep everyone at home by force. Armed checkpoints on every road into every town, on every motorway slip road. So on and so on. Only trucks and essential services should be on the roads.

If those measures save 1 life, it'd be worth it. If it ends this chaos even a day earlier, it'd be worth it.*

No, it wouldn’t be worth it to save one life. Absolutely ludicrous

I wouldn't say 'infrequent' covers everyday?

I wouldn’t go once a day, but this is what the first minister said.

I wouldn't say 'infrequent' covers everyday?

It doesn't say 'infrequent'. It says 'as infrequently as possible'. For some - those with cars and big cupboards and freezers for all the milk ice cubes and frozen bread loaves - that might be once a week or even less. For others, it might be every day.

Also confused as to why you'd need 'essentials everyday' even with OP and others updates how you'd go through a whole loaf, milk (even if not frozen) and cereal eggs etc everyday is not normal? What you mean @IcedPurple is that you go out for the hell of it, you walk by it so pop in, that is not infrequent or fair on shop workers but hey ho

Dear lord are you always so judgemental?

I never said I went shopping every day.

I said I went shopping every couple of days.

Which is perfectly within the permitted guidelines, whatever the milk cube freezers and neighbour grocery items counters think.

Yes - Lilac teee.

A Christian called Barry Smith talked about this in the early 90s as a future happening and also being controlled by food so this is interesting

I'm going to pick up on two minor aspects of the thread because I'm petty like that.

If you have milk frozen as ice cubes for tea, surely the simplest way to defrost it is just to pop it in your tea!

And if they're going to track where and how often people travel by their phones, won't people just start leaving them at home? Or will we have to start checking in on our phones every two minutes?

id like one trip to a supermarket a week-only

As a single parent, with no car, holding the hands of a 2 year old & 3 year old, plus the dogs lead (to tie him up outside the local shop, so he doesn’t miss out on his walk & I don’t breach the rules by going out for a second time in a day) I can assure you it’s EXTREMELY difficult to do this and then wrap shopping bags around my wrists and the crook of my elbows and lug it all home. To do a weekly shop in one go? I physically could not manage to do that and walk 25 minutes home.
Some people have to go more than once a week.

so essential is everyday now
this is what i mean bendin the rules so you can do as you please-thats why we need tighter lockdown

Who has said they go shopping every day? @GabsAlot

Our Tesco has a limit of eight pints of milk per shopper. That should last most people a couple of days.