The positive mental health thread:-pt 5

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Can someone get my morning lettuce please? 🥬

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I ♥️ that bunny

Thanks @Noooblerooble very true

He's so cute I'm so jealous

Oh, that bunny’s a sanity saver!

I think your rabbit is getting me through this crisis Bunnyflop Could he be any cuter?

@Noooblerooble
thankyou so much for that

Henry says thank you for all the bunny love! 💓 I just went upstairs and he thought I was going to get more lettuce.... sadly not.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/09/many-people-may-already-have-immunity-coronavirus-german-study/amp/

Some positive news.... Study found 15% of a german town already had antibodies. Many didnt know they had been infected.

@Jrobhatch29 ahhh I can't read it as I'm not a subscriber

Would you be able to copy and pasta please ? X

I can read it, and I am not a Telegraph subscriber. Something funny is going on....

What this article suggests to me is that the Germans have an antibody test, which is seriously good news. With a biit of luck it will soon be available here, if that is the case.

Many more people may have been infected with the coronavirus and acquired immunity than previously thought, according to a groundbreaking study in Germany.

Scientists studying the town at the epicentre of Germany's first major outbreak said they had found antibodies to the virus in people who had shown no symptoms and were not previously thought to have been infected.

Initial results released on Thursday suggest as many as 15 per cent of the town may already have immunity — three times as many as previous estimates.

The findings suggest the mortality rate for the virus in Germany is just 0.37 per cent — five times lower than current estimates.

Thats not the whole article as its long but this is main message

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime i think they did it through blood tests. Im sure i read that x

There is the same story in the Daily Mail:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8206831/Europe-close-herd-immunity-coronavirus-ALREADY.html

Any test of what is in someone's blood would have to be a blood test, surely, Jrobhatch29?

We have had a blood-test which tells you whether you have it for a while now; what we have not had is a blood-test which tells you whether you have had it and have got over it.

If we were able say certainly who had had it and was no longer at risk of infection or infecting, then anyone in that position could go back to normal.

I meant as in sent off to a lab rather than a home test

Oh, yes; but that was what I was assuming; or at least, send the blood to the lab from home would also be possible, I suppose. I am expecting that it will have to be taken in a local pharmacy or by your doctor and then sent to a lab, like most other blood tests.

I haven't ever expected it to be like a home pregnancy test kit, do it yourself and get the answer in minutes. Apart from anything else, I wouldn't trust a random member of the population to do it, do it right, and be honest about the result. Too many people have excellent motives to wish not to be in lockdown for that to be a safe way to go about testing this important.

I feel very breathless today I was like it last night I tried to do my headspace app and I can take a deep breath and hold it etc if I want to but it didn't relax me so I'm thinking it's anxiety playing up badly. I've been short of breath all morning again it's really panicking me more making it worse. I don't know how to just stop it.

I don't understand the other boards on Mumsnet at all. Another one complaining about the clapping. Another one saying non clinical NHS shouldn't be getting any special treatment or thanks. My DH is purchasing manager at the hospital working very long hours, unable to practice social distancing at work, and doing 6 day weeks including over Easter in very stressful situation to ensure the medical staff get the equipment they need.

Gingerbread- this might not help but when I was doing hypnobirthing my teacher told me something so simple when I was struggling to take deep breaths and getting anxious about it: she said you can’t take a full breath in until you’ve actually let a full breath out first.
Seems silly but I hadn’t fully emptied my lungs when trying to take the deep breaths.

Might be irrelevant but thought I’d share!

The only thing that helped my anxiety around swallowing a few years ago was to play an engrossing but mindless game on my phone, like candy crush or 1010 or Wordscapes. Might help?

Anxiety is the worst, especially now with “breathlessness” being a worrying symptom. I hope it passes soon ❤️

@gingerbreadslice I had this recently and it was horrible. I recommend trying to notice and feel your breath in your tummy rather than focussing in the feeling in your chest if that makes sense? If you are able to speak normally then you are okay. I went to the GP with this a few weeks ago and although I felt breathless, my oxygen levels were normal and my chest sounded normal to the doctor.

@gingerbreadslice agree with what @BatCountry says, and also maybe try the 4 counts in and 8 counts out breathing. This signals to your brain to calm down.
I've heard the same issue for weeks but not so much the past week or so.
Pretty convinced I had the virus mildly couple of months ago which would tie in with the findings in that German town/village mentioned above.

gingerbreadslice, here is a way to help yourself.

Take a deep breath (or as deep as you can manage), hold it in while you count to five, and then breathe out again. Do this five times.
Then take a deep breath, count to five, and as you breath out try to cough.
Do this twice.
Then lie down on your front on your bed for ten minutes, breathing as deeply as you can, counting while you breathe in and breathe out. If you can manage breathe in for a count of five, hold for five, breathe out for five, hold for five and then repeat, that's terrific. If you can gradually increase the counts to six, seven, and so on as far as ten, you are doing a breathing exercise which will be invaluable if you actually do catch neocoronavirus and get it badly enough to notice (those tests from Germany suggest that it's really pretty likely that you won't notice!) because it clears your lungs and makes them more efficient, and that is what you need if you get a respiratory disease.

Even if it is very difficult at first, it is worthwhile both physically and because you have to concentrate to get it right, and if you are concentrating on that, you won't be thinking about the other things that threaten to overwhelm you.