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Is anybody worried now

145 replies

Relaxing2 · 31/03/2020 19:32

Are people getting worried now that even young healthy people are dying from this?

OP posts:
Bunnylady54 · 31/03/2020 22:55

I am generally anxious & do tend to get health anxiety. DH is helping me to keep my feet on the ground ( he used to be a medic in The Navy), plus we live in an area without any huge populations.It is upsetting to read about the younger folks. The 19 year old chef was particularly tragic, as he was “ too healthy” so just stayed at home but ended up dying later in the week before the ambulance reached him ( only read it briefly so apologise if it’s not completely accurate). I don’t know the figures but pretty sure deaths from CV in younger people don’t make up a very big percentage. I’m sticking stringently to the rules, trying not to read too much on the internet & thinking positive!

Pootle40 · 31/03/2020 22:55

I am more concerned that people have become so scared they are disinfecting every single thing and that there was a post from someone frightened to open their windows. Those reactions worry me a lot more than the virus.

blue25 · 31/03/2020 22:56

Yes because young and healthy people are dying. However we’re all going to die at some point, so best just to accept that and get on with living the best life you can.

OhTheRoses · 31/03/2020 22:56

No. The lad tested positive but the results of a post mortem are awaited. He died with it not necessarily of it.

1789/66,000,000 x 100 = 0.0027% chance of dying and that includes the elderly with underlying serious medical conditions.

I keep wondering why so many buy a lottery ticket when they have less chance of winning but think they will.

The entire situation is beyond bizarre and being disproportionately catastrophised.

Roostersmum2 · 31/03/2020 22:56

Yes I'm worried. Is that what you want to hear?

Why do you want everybody to be panicking?

My anxiety was through the roof a week ago to the point where I could barely function, I have a baby and a toddler to look after and I was having to take beta blockers as though they were sweets just to get through the day. I am immunocompromised.

I banned the news in our house and stuck to the positive mumsnet threads and found my anxiety improved considerably. I realised that threads like this was compounding my stress.

My twit DH thought it would be a good idea to announce the news you are posting about and now I'm a nervous wreck again.

My point is these threads don't help anybody and only make you feel worse.

Anybody who has researched the statistics knew that this was a possibility, as tragic and sad as it is, it's not a surprise.

Its just horrible and so are the journalists that splash this poor child's passing all over the internet and papers. Zero respect at all.

I don't think it is in anyone's best interests to know about this, and it's certainly none of our business.

kittykat7210 · 31/03/2020 22:57

I’m more worried about the financial side of this than the illness side. Yes it’s kind of scary we’re all locked in our houses. And I have a baby due soon! I just want to survive financially, it will cause a catastrophic economic crash, just want to try and keep our heads above water!

MrsSnitchnose · 31/03/2020 22:58

An apt time for the wise words I try to live by

Is anybody worried now
Roostersmum2 · 31/03/2020 22:59

@OhTheRoses thank you, sincerely. The panic is out of this world and people need to be reminded of that.

RarePackOfLooRoll · 31/03/2020 23:05

No..young people were dieing in China. Young people have been and still are during in Italy and Spain, and most probably many other countries.
I'm surprised it's taken until now for the UK to be hit with child/Young deaths with this virus.

It was always going to happen and it will continue to until we have a vaccine and people can actually do what's being asked without bending the rules to suit.

Heart breaking. I do think there is sadly an element of society that only now will realise the reality if this bizarre illness that can either hardly brush one person but kill another.

ACertainSupermarket · 31/03/2020 23:06

I know I have a chance of getting seriously ill, just as much as I have a chance of getting it mildly or not at all. I don't worry about the odds. What I worry about is the people who think THEY would only get it mildly, and are not careful enough.

CallmeAngelina · 31/03/2020 23:35

I've been worried all along. I haven't let it govern my life, but yes, I've been very concerned, but I've lost count of the numbers of people who have either dismissed me or just airily said that it's only a problem for the elderly and those with underlying health conditions. As if they don't matter!
How could people watch what was happening in China back in January and not be worried at that point? Of course it was going to head our way. I prayed for some sort of miracle, but nothing's transpired yet.

ILikeyourHairyHands · 31/03/2020 23:35

No. I don't really get worried about anything. Not because I'm stupid or fatalistic, but because it's utterly pointless. It's fine to be concerned, to be informed and to take appropriate steps, to make it your business to be educated and to do your best to understand the world.

But worrying? If you extrapolate to the absolute worst that could happen in any circumstance and really think about it what does it really matter?

If every single living thing on Earth were wiped out tomorrow, what would it really matter?

The Epicureans, although seen as pleasure seekers, really thought that a truly well lived life was found through an absence of fear and freedom from pain.

It's not possible to live life with constant fear, fear prevents true appreciation of life. We're all for the grave anyway. May as well accept that and enjoy the ride.

Iamamoleinthegarden · 31/03/2020 23:40

Not worried. Why should I be.

MummaPI · 31/03/2020 23:54

OP, not sure why you're getting such a hard time when we are so keen on this 'be kind' guff that very quickly fizzled out.
I think its very reasonable and understandable to be worried and you're reaching out for reassurance. We cant tell you it will be ok but you aren't the only one worried. I am more worried now having seen the younger deaths as I have children and both of us are key workers so we could be exposing our children to it. There are no.answers but to follow advice and try to be positive. Take care

FaFoutis · 31/03/2020 23:56

I hope this thread is helping the OP.
Replies full of fear and panic would not help.

Peasfox · 01/04/2020 00:00

I was terrified until I realised it’s pretty much inevitable. My Mum suspects she had it when she found out loss of taste and smell is a symptom. She had had a cough and had a temperature for a day but otherwise wouldn’t have known. My Dad lives with her and has been asymptomatic. My Auntie living abroad however was very poorly and didn’t make it. Strange how it affects different people.

ILikeyourHairyHands · 01/04/2020 00:02

Try some poety OP, I always find it very grounding.

Animals by Frank O'hara

Have you forgotten what we were like then
when we were still first rate
and the day came fat with an apple in its mouth

it's no use worrying about Time
but we did have a few tricks up our sleeves
and turned some sharp corners

the whole pasture looked like our meal
we didn't need speedometers
we could manage cocktails out of ice and water

I wouldn't want to be faster
or greener than now if you were with me O you
were the best of all my days

Clear Night by Charles Wright

Clear night, thumb-top of a moon, a back-lit sky.

Moon-fingers lay down their same routine

On the side deck and the threshold, the white keys and the black keys.

Bird hush and bird song. A cassia flower falls.

I want to be bruised by God.

I want to be strung up in a strong light and singled out.

I want to be stretched, like music wrung from a dropped seed.

I want to be entered and picked clean.

And the wind says “What?” to me.

And the castor beans, with their little earrings of death, say “What?” to me.

And the stars start out on their cold slide through the dark.

And the gears notch and the engines wheel.

Mid-century American poets clean me out in a very good way. They're very sparse. I always find the best meaning in scarcity.

starlightgazers · 01/04/2020 00:21

The lad tested positive but the results of a post mortem are awaited. He died with it not necessarily of it

If, as has been reported, he was admitted due to sudden breathing problems then I would say CV is very likely to be the cause. If he had asthma or similar, that would have been picked up before 13. It's also possible that he died very suddenly as can happen with SARS, hence why he was alone (if he was).

With regards to age, COVID-19 can cause sepsis, which people of any age/ with no health problems can get. Not saying that to try and scare anyone, but to try and deter anyone from thinking they cannot get this, anyone can.

starlightgazers · 01/04/2020 00:30

1789/66,000,000 x 100 = 0.0027% chance of dying and that includes the elderly with underlying serious medical conditions

Sorry, but I keep seeing this statistic, but it is absolute bollocks. A majority are likely to catch this at some point. The WHO say the death rate is 3-4%. It's not others catastrophising, it is people like you minimising.

That said - OP - please try not to worry, the odds may be higher than some are quoting but they are still good Flowers.

AllTheseThingsThatIHaveNotDone · 01/04/2020 00:42

I am not worried about dying, no, I am worried about leaving behind a 6 year old and 9 year old, who rely solely on me. I have no idea what would happen to them if I was hospitalised. Tbh that is a worry I have had on a daily basis for the last x months, not just now, but corona brings it home how vulnerable we are. How are emergency foster carers managing atm - would they even be able to take in children who would normally be self-isolating? How are social services functioning?

Inkpaperstars · 01/04/2020 01:39

I spray with disinfectant spray. They don't have to be soaking, does make the paper a little crinkly sometimes. Lay them out on a freshly laundered towel or kitchen paper to dry. All the envelopes are immediately thrown away, it's only the 'innards' that I spray. Then I wash hands and hand sanitise. I learned to do that on here! Prior to that I didn't bother or even think of it. However the virus doesn't live on cardboard or paper for more than an hour so they could just be left somewhere if there is no urgency to open.

I think it can live on card or paper for more like 24 hours, but in any case, wouldn't it be easier to just read the mail, put it in a folder or bag, and then wash your hands? Or wear gloves.

ArriettyJones · 01/04/2020 01:42

We only have control over our own actions and choices, the rest is down to luck.

Same as with everything else, really.

MarginalGain · 01/04/2020 05:38

No. The lad tested positive but the results of a post mortem are awaited. He died with it not necessarily of it.

1789/66,000,000 x 100 = 0.0027% chance of dying and that includes the elderly with underlying serious medical conditions.

I keep wondering why so many buy a lottery ticket when they have less chance of winning but think they will.

The entire situation is beyond bizarre and being disproportionately catastrophised.

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Thank you to whomever wrote this. No I am not worried in the slightest.

The BBC has managed to convince people that it's really unusual for people to die in the UK. It is not. Sadly, children and young people die too. It happens and life goes on.

Samcarpy92 · 01/04/2020 06:13

Even if it is 3-4% you need to go deeper into it than that to really understand the at risk demographics properly.

You can’t live your life in fear and the probability is most people who get it will be absolutely fine. You’re all looking at the outlier cases and scaring yourselves silly.

crazydiamond222 · 01/04/2020 06:20

No I am more worried about the mental health of my special needs son and the global recession/depression that will result.

Even under the worst scenario only 0.16% of people in the UK will die and under the most likely 0.04% will die.

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