Is anybody worried now

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Are people getting worried now that even young healthy people are dying from this?

No not worried, I believe we are all born with an expiry date above our heads. If I die of this virus it’s my date to die

I’ve lost so much family over the years very young & old, death doesn’t scare me

I’ve also just looked at your other threads and it’s clear you have mental illness at play here op. Asking this question on here will just validate you’re right to feel as you do, it only takes one person to agree with you and say yes I’m scared,

I’d get this deleted, honestly it’s not going to help you.

I think we knew when we saw the heroic 30-something Chinese Dr Die.

No.

It doesn’t change anything. We always knew that young, healthy people could die of this disease. The odds are very low though.

I take any reports of young people dying with no underlying conditions cautiously. Not because I believe it to be impossible but because the media are fairly irresponsible in their reporting.

The 19 year old footballer in Spain who had no underlying conditions turned out to have undiagnosed leukaemia. The healthy 21 year old whose death was attributed to the virus in the press turned out not to have the virus and (very sadly) died of a heart attack.

Approximately 1,500 to 1,600 people die everyday in the UK how many additional deaths (if any) are being caused by the virus will not be known for a long time.

@Sunshinegirl82 also the story about a 14yr old who died "of C-19" had psoriasis which is an auto-immune disease and it was reported as him having "no underlying health conditions".

There's a difference between people dying OF coronavirus or WITH coronavirus too. I'd like to see those stats.

@ChardonnaysPetDragon be kind please.

Look, it's a numbers game!

Statistically speaking, if even 0.01% of all humans were to suddenlt wake up with naturally blue hair one morning that'd still result in a hell of a lot of people with blue hair globally. But also, on an individual level: you, personally, would still only have a 1 in 10k chance of ever waking up with hair that had turned blue overnight.

Of course young people will die! This is statistically inevitable seeing how many people are infected. But also: it's still exceedingly unlikely to happen to any given young and healthy individual even if they catch COVID-19. So, being scared and panicky really doesn't help!

What does help is to follow best practices and guidance so as to keep the total as low as possible. That'll save a few young and healthy people. And a great number of less old and less healthy ones.

But, really, the young and healthy aren't dropping like flies. They make the headlines because - despite it being statistically inevitable - them dying is unusual even under these current circumstances!

I am kind, I do think that OP really needs to talk to someone who can help her.

Which is more newsworthy? The ‘odd’ young death or 90 year old Doris in the nursing home?

The media are very irresponsible. This is manna from heaven for the 24 hour news channels. However, it has to be acknowledged this kind of reporting could help keep all the young ones who previously thought they were 101% immortal in line for the duration of the lockdown. Which obviously helps everybody. At least in the short term.

Worrying doesn't prevent coronavirus. Washing your hands and staying at home might. Perhaps if you're thinking about it too excessively, you should try some CBT for health anxiety.

If youre taoking about the young boy they dont think he had any underlying conditions but hasnt been confirmed yet by doctr/coroner

It's a balance though, keeping the young obeying the rules vs. causing mass fear and anxiety.
The media are way over that line into the fear and anxiety - Jenny Harries keeps trying to counter that in her bits of the daily briefings.

Like many people you don't understand statistics or epidemiology. Covid 19 is more likely to kill people who are older, who smoke, who have underlying health conditions or are immunocompromised. That does not mean young and healthy people are immune to it or will only have it mildly if they catch it. There are charts showing the death rate by age; the picture is very clear.

Just follow the advice and try to get some help for your anxiety.

It is obviously shocking that young and healthy people can die and understandable that its frightening.

But statistically speaking its still incredibly unlikely that anyone under the age of 50 will die from it. The fact that this is front page news underlines this.

Everyone is scared but you need to keep things in proportion.

I am not worried about me dying i am worried about my kids ...

I think that its too early as yet to make any hard and fast judgemnts as so little (relativley) is known about this virus, theres been very little time to study it out "in the wild" as it were.

But if we follow the isolation rules then it will come under control and fade down a bit or sufficent to permit most of our former lives be be what they were before it all blew up.

What I'd really like to know is how is it that in China theres what 1.3 or so Billion people yet around 100,000 or less have had it and either died or recovered.

OK that may be on the low side lets say 1 million have had it, died, or recoved. So thats less then one thousandth? are now OK to go and mingle with each other so do the Chinese know something we don't?

Got some treatment their keeping quiet about, or has it died out the virus?.

Any answers anyone?.

In all fairness: something I've come to notice in these times is that many people really DO NOT GET mathematics on a very fundamental level.

This includes probability, as shown in this very thread.

It also includes basic exponential functions. As in: powers of two literally mean one time unit before the worst happens, things still look pretty okay because the proverbial glass is literally half full. By definition.

Also, integrals. We've all seen the curves. Most people don't seem to get that they describe "rate of change" and therefore also don't get why waiting for things to get truly desperste before measures are taken is a pointless idea.

Also ... well, all of it!

I'm a trained engineer working with mostly trained business administration folks and I despair over the bookkeeping approach to statistics that people seem to assume. No, you can't devise a metaphorical payment period extension to manage your viral cash flow. This is just so not how any of this works!

Ok, before anyone jumps on me let me say I am NOT comparing covid 19 to flu.

But teenagers and children can and do die of flu. When I was 15 a classmate died of flu. It was fucking horrendous.

You are always going to get some anomalies. It is fucking tragic and awful. I cant even imagine what the mother of that poor boy is going through. But the risk is generally still low - you only have to look at the stats to see that.

Everyone should continue to follow the guidelines to stay safe.

No respectable source had ever said that only the old and vulnerable were at risk, it's only a few people on social media - like this forum - who enjoyed repeating that it was only the flu, and the young and healthy were safe.

So no, I am not worried NOW. I was a hell of a lot more worried when the schools were still opened and no one was taking it seriously.

It was obvious it would take for people to know someone who died to take it seriously. Unfortunately, we are getting there.

As shops are getting (marginally) safer, I am LESS worried than I was. Still praying none of my kids will need to go to hospital for any reason.

Some Young people Have died who also tested positive for CV

Not the same thing as dying of CV.

In all fairness: something I've come to notice in these times is that many people really DO NOT GET mathematics on a very fundamental level.

It’s been well known for a long time that people are unmoved by numbers in the abstract, but engage with individual cases.

Which is why charity appeals tend to focus on one child and their story, rather than just quote numbers at people.

@pointythings yes i found ppl's ignorance of what stats actually mean, more scary than covid!