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Original poster

If CV turns out to be less deadly than flu...

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TheDailyCarbuncle · 30/03/2020 14:08

do you think you will still feel the restrictions were worth it?

Just asking out of curiosity really.

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Amymayapple · 30/03/2020 15:32

I don't agree with any of these restrictions. I am starting to feel like rebelling

Quartz2208 · 30/03/2020 15:32

@TheDailyCarbuncle but we need proper working antibody tests in order to do that

MarshaBradyo · 30/03/2020 15:32

Amy what will you do?

starlightgazers · 30/03/2020 15:33

t's nasty and it can have complications like pneumonia

True, bit another difference in flu is that secondary infections such as pneumonia tend to be bacterial rather than viral and therefore respond to antibiotics. Viral pneumonia/ SARS - there is no treatment for it as yet. Available anti-virals are not working.

mooboy · 30/03/2020 15:33

How would we know? I thought they were only testing people who arrived in hospital and surely these are the sickest?

FourTeaFallOut · 30/03/2020 15:34

What is your point @TheDailyCarbuncle?

Are you under the impression that people who think it is for the best to lock down do not think that mass testing is the way forward?

It's not an option yet. When it is I'm sure we are all looking forward to having some freedom again. Until then, yes, lock down is worth it.

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TheDailyCarbuncle · 30/03/2020 15:34

Now, I think people should question constantly why the government has put us in the position that the only 'solution' available is tanking the economy and putting lives at risk in other ways besides the virus.

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MintyMabel · 30/03/2020 15:34

Vaccines are based on immunity @MintyMabel - that's how vaccines work. You are injected with a form of the virus and you develop immunity. No immunity, no vaccine.

I think you’ve read a little bit of something and are extrapolating.

starlightgazers · 30/03/2020 15:34

I am starting to feel like rebelling

And doing what? Nipping to the pharmacy/ shop. Everywhere is closed.

The irony is - it is people like you who are screaming the loudest for medical attention when you do end up ill.

Tanith · 30/03/2020 15:35

A few weeks ago, I read an article that quoted the French Health Minister's explanation of why we are isolating.

He said, at the time, it was a new virus, no-one has immunity to it and they don't yet know how it will behave when it mutates, as it will.

Their best advice was to try and stop it spreading so it can't mutate.

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TheDailyCarbuncle · 30/03/2020 15:35

I don't understand what you mean @MintyMabel, I think we're misunderstanding each other.

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Bluntness100 · 30/03/2020 15:35

Op it will only be less deadly than flu if our measures are successful

You need to remember twenty percent of people who get it, need hospitalisation and if they don’t get it, the death rate would be much higher.

So yes the measures are worth it. 20 percent is a lot of people.

MarshaBradyo · 30/03/2020 15:35

Carbuncle you are not making sense. Be logical.

The test isn’t available yet. What would you want to see in place right now given that it’s not?

Amymayapple · 30/03/2020 15:35

@starlightgazers

Rebelling by protesting. I have heard a few people talking along the same lines in my community.

We have the right to protest

Inkpaperstars · 30/03/2020 15:36

So you do think there is some immunity post infection then OP?

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TheDailyCarbuncle · 30/03/2020 15:36

@Tanith - the 'stopping it spreading so it can't mutate' makes no sense. For that to happen, everyone would have to be sealed inside their houses (as in, no contact with anyone at all) for months.

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Inkpaperstars · 30/03/2020 15:36

Amy do you have the right to protest right now? By gathering?

MarshaBradyo · 30/03/2020 15:36

Amy you will attend a mass gathering? Good luck with that.

Bluntness100 · 30/03/2020 15:37

Op, I’d also add your ideal world is now, not something anyone has insight into when this started. You do really need to keep hold of how this evolved.

Amymayapple · 30/03/2020 15:39

@Inkpaperstars @MarshaBradyo I have just got a text from a friend (self employed)

She said that she has lost her entire income due to this, she can't get any help, and will be made homeless.

Yes, I will protest.

strawberrylipgloss · 30/03/2020 15:39

It's the Tories in charge. If there was a "cheaper" way to keep the country from drowning, don't you think they'd do it?

Lockdowns and restrictions buys time for the scientists to learn more about COVID and develop a vaccine/treatment.

They won't do this every year (if it's cyclical like flu) but for now the world has to rush for a solution.

FourTeaFallOut · 30/03/2020 15:39

We have the right to protest

Will you all keep your distance from each other or bunch up and play Russian roulette on which 20% of you will get a bed at the peak of the virus?

Neves7 · 30/03/2020 15:39

@MrsNettle
I think you have forgotten how percentages work.
0.18 = 18%
Of course that just counts known recoveries that have been retested so in reality the death rate would be much smaller.

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TheDailyCarbuncle · 30/03/2020 15:40

In terms of a 'solution' I would like to see an actual calculation, with real data, of how many lives will really be saved by the measures, vs how many lives will be lost due to the measures. Everyone has just accepted that everything is necessary, with no real explanation, because of fear of the unknown.

It's likely for example, that sending children back to school would be of more benefit than risk.

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HoffiCoffi13 · 30/03/2020 15:41

The antibody tests aren’t available yet are they? So that throws that solution out of the window.