Could this be the end of the Royal family?

[BeijingBikini]

I don't mean if they die of the virus...

But there's nothing like a lockdown to really highlight inequality. I saw an article yesterday about Kate + William "isolating" at Anmer Hall, having done a photoshoot where they pretend to be on the telephone and writing ("working").

I think if people are going to have to spend months at home, in small flats with kids, still going out to work or trying to WFH, queueing for supermarkets with empty shelves......that could definitely breed some discontent. Or if people catch it and have to be treated in makeshift hospitals, not getting an ambulance until they're struggling to breathe, while the RF can be whisked away to a private hospital for treatment. I've already seen a lot of comments along the lines of "why don't they offer up their many palaces to be used as hospitals, rather than doing newspaper articles".

Opinions?

For example, Daniel Radcliffe was cast as Harry Potter because his mother was the casting agent for the movie

His mother was a very minor casting director (not “casting agent”) who is not well known within the casting world and has only a handful of minor credits to her name. The first HP movie was cast by a very famous American CD pair named Janet Hirshenson and Jane Jenkins.

Having a mother in the industry probably helped in terms of having someone to show him the ropes, but his mum didn’t work on or have any connection to Harry Potter.

It is true that DR’s dad knew one of the producers on the movie socially and was asked to audition via that channel. But no one he knew was present at the audition.

Why don't instead of worrying about people who have more than us we concentrate on people with less

This. All you who are moaning about the RF not doing anything - what are you actually doing?

This thread has been very vitriolic and i suspect is fuelled by the current situation. Cooped up in an enforced manner with the family becoming more frustrated by the day is enough to fan any resentment. Add financial worries, lack of outdoor space and the sense that it is different for them and then a thread likes this allows some steam to be let off.
For some it is a distraction from stress and worries and for others a chance to air their true anti monarchy feelings. As far as William and Kate are concerned I think they are trying to do their best in a difficult situation. They have been attempting to support the mental health concerns which are very real in this lockdown situation and are trying to show solidarity with the public with appearances to show this. what I would say is that I like the senior Royals and am disappointed that Harry has buggered off with his Hollywood loving wife but that is his decision and they will be gradually forgotten as they grow older and less glamorous".Meanwhile folks the real last straw in my vain attempt to keep sane is that Corrie is down to single episodes.

Nothing against the royals personally (bar Andrew who is unarguably a dick) but the whole concept to me is wrong. Giving a rather dull family millions of public funds we are supposed to fawn over them? Why? What is the point? The fact they add nothing in a crisis just confirms it for me.

This thread has been very vitriolic and i suspect is fuelled by the current situatio

Nope. Some of us are critical of them and the whole monarchy in all situations.

Oh and I've never watched Coronation St in my life.

And what we are doing, or not doing, to help the less fortunate is irrelevant because no one here gets paid shit loads of public money.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8169567/Prince-William-wants-RETURN-NHS-air-ambulance-pilot.html

Interesting - good for him though. Maybe Kate has been on MN and gone "oi, William, we need to do something other than pose in front of a phone"

eaglejulesk

This. All you who are moaning about the RF not doing anything - what are you actually doing?

Well for starters I am complying with government guidelines to stay at home and not to go to my 2nd home in Norfolk, or shlep my whole team to Scotland despite testing positive for Coronavirus.

FFS these people are in their positions to serve the country, it's what they are paid to do. The regular public is not, so you cannot compare what we do to what they do. (Unless you are willing to give me millions a year and a few stately homes).

People are angry because many are truly suffering from this pandemic, and the royal family could do so much to help with very little actual risk to themselves, but they are not.

The Queen has piped up once and Wills and Kate have said they are doing something about peoples MH during the CV crisis. This is not good enough and the others are doing sweet FA. Harry and Meghan have used the crisis as a smokescreen to put their plans into action without any notice.

This crisis just shows how obsolete they are and of how little use they are to the general public. They have been of no comfort to us, shown no leadership and headed up nothing to help any of us. It's time to disband the RF.

All you who are moaning about the RF not doing anything - what are you actually doing?

It's a silly question to ask. We are not funded to the tune of several millions a year by the state and we are not the head of state (or head of state in waiting either). this question is so ridiculous, I don't know where to start.

But since you asked:

• staying at home instead of flogging to the countryside, not dragging the virus out into other communities.
• have volunteered locally and now shop for a number of vulnerable/elderly neighbours

(I am also working from home and look after a child with severe disabilities - so have a fair share of my own shit to deal with but still get out to help others who don't have anyone). Hth

Home edding kids helping elderly neighbours get provisions whilst ensuring frontline medics have their wills in place. Imagine I and most other people are doing a damn sight more than the royals without being paid millions by the state 🙄🙄

The royal family care about one thing only and that’s their own arses. They more than likely hate us all with a passion. How anyone can can admire them is baffling. The way the queen flaunted Andrew on that horse ride was her way of saying fuck you all. But then some of you are taken in by their sweet smiles and feigned show of interest in the commoners.

Oh and a family member has had dealings with the queen and she’s not that nice and is only out for herself. Seeing photos of sweaty Andrew gurning at parties slavering over models in the 80s killed it for me. I gave them the benefit of the doubt til then.

All you who are moaning about the RF not doing anything - what are you actually doing

That’s not even worthy of an answer.

I don't blame the Queen for being absent during this time.

@Bubblebu

You dont blame our head of state for being absent during the biggest crisis since ww2?

What would you have said if Boris Johnson was absent?

This. All you who are moaning about the RF not doing anything - what are you actually doing?

@eaglejulesk

Sign of a poor argument to simply turn it against the poster.

You seem to be missing the point we are not head of state that lives off taxpayer money

@HappydaysArehere

This thread has been very vitriolic and i suspect is fuelled by the current situation. Cooped up in an enforced manner with the family becoming more frustrated by the day is enough to fan any resentment. Add financial worries, lack of outdoor space and the sense that it is different for them and then a thread likes this allows some steam to be let off.

You are right in part that it puts our resentment of the royal family under a magnifying glass. But why is that wrong? There has never been such a glaring difference between them and us as there is now, so why not discuss it? Shouldn't people cooped up in flats feel angry their tax money is paying for another to have a multi millionaire lifestyle, which they do very little for in return?

For some it is a distraction from stress and worries and for others a chance to air their true anti monarchy feelings. As far as William and Kate are concerned I think they are trying to do their best in a difficult situation. They have been attempting to support the mental health concerns which are very real in this lockdown situation and are trying to show solidarity with the public with appearances to show this.

I'm sorry, what about this is difficult for them? They are 'isolating' in a stately home with grounds, a swimming pool and tennis courts. As usual they have done 5 minutes of PR then buggered off back into hiding. As the future King, I expect him to DO something with his own time and resources, not simply 'be the face' of a campaign (aka quick photoshoot and tweet some links). Why doesnt he join the 5000000 NHS volunteers? What excuse can there possibly be when there are people joining that have real childcare and work responsibilities? Or go back to his job at the air ambulance, which cost 200k to train him and he quit after less than 2 years. That would really be helping the NHS right now. Its embarrassing a fit and healthy young future king is acting in such a cowardly manner.

what I would say is that I like the senior Royals and am disappointed that Harry has buggered off with his Hollywood loving wife but that is his decision and they will be gradually forgotten as they grow older and less glamorous".Meanwhile folks the real last straw in my vain attempt to keep sane is that Corrie is down to single episodes.

Harry and Meghan no longer take taxpayer money so they're out of this debate.

The Senior royals that you love, couldn't care less about you. They have fled to their stately homes, leaving the austerity public and crippled NHS to deal with everything. Prince Charles fled to Scotland KNOWING HE HAD SYMPTOMS OF CORONAVIRUS. When medical advice was to NOT TRAVEL TO SECOND HOMES SO AS NOT TO OVERWHELM RURAL HOSPITALS. He would have also risked infecting his security and pilot in a confined space, but guess what? He doesnt care. One rule for them, another for us.

Enjoy Corrie.

I think there should an excellent soap type programme based on The Crown for royalists to watch and chat about. They would replace the real thing. Perfect solution!

@wolfgirl
What she says

Someone from their PR team
Has clearly read this thread as news today that wills wants to go back to being a helicopter pilot. Yes come on! Get on with it it’s exactly what they should be doing at this time.

All the excuses for the Queen being 93, so she can't do anything. Then she could be like the Dutch Royals and abdicate at a sensible age, as the now Princess Beatrix did, letting her son take over.

It's absolute tosh to say she can't abdicate because of Edward VIII - he was still in his prime. The circumstances now are completely different. Although I suspect that Charles is more and more acting as a Regent, hence his getting the test for corona virus PDQ.

I was chatting to my mum about this this morning and she said:

"My dad loathed the Queen Mother for pretending to be 'just like us' during the second world war and he certainly wasn't alone"

Plus ca change!

Same with my Dad and the QM.

a rather dull family

Clearly not that dull - the royal children clapping for the NHS has had over 10 million views on Kensington Palce twitter/instagram. The Countess of Wessex's video for parents and carers has had 700,000 views.

How anyone can can admire them is baffling.

Even Greta Thunberg seemed pleased to meet Prince Charles at the World Economic Forum in January - she doesn't smile for everyone you know.

news.sky.com/story/prince-charles-global-warming-greatest-threat-humanity-has-ever-faced-11915042

"His Royal Highness The Prince of Wales, in collaboration with the World Economic Forum, established the Sustainable Markets Council in September 2019"

www.sustainable-markets.org/council

"Alliance Magazine - for the global philanthropy sector"

2018
"The Royal Family are an incredible force for good when it comes to supporting charities. Royal patronage adds status to an organisation as well as giving them some much needed publicity, but perhaps most importantly it can have a positive effect on donations."

"CAF [Charities Aid Foundation] research shows that these royal patronages can be vital for charities, with one in eight people saying that the patronage of a member of the royal family makes us more inclined to give money to a charity."

"If you add that to our research from 2012 which showed that charities of which the Queen is patron raised more than £1.4 billion every year, it becomes clear that having a royal name atop one’s charity is a big deal."

"The royals are afforded both a platform and an audience simply because of who they are. We cannot underestimate the impact that has when they use that platform to promote charities. All of a sudden a charity can find itself on the BBC, the Daily Mail, plastered across Twitter – attention that it may not have been able to garner by itself."

"The Prince of Wales, who founded the Prince’s Trust more than 40 years ago, has dedicated much of his life to supporting charitable organisations. The Trust alone has helped over 825,000 young people across the UK since its inception, and quite easily raises upwards of £60 million every year to keep it running."

www.alliancemagazine.org/blog/charities-should-be-thankful-for-royal-philanthropy/

Some years ago Prince Charles was ridiculed for his biscuit making enterprise - that enterprise has now donated over £20m to charity via Waitrose. Poundbury - love it or loath it, it apparently provides employment for 2,000 people, his drawing school holds classes for 1,000 people a week...

Last week Prince Charles held telephone meetings with the British Red Cross and the International Rescue Committee UK...

RE. William saying how much he wants to be a helicopter pilot again my DH was in the RAF. There are 1000s of fully trained pilots at any point who would happily step up right now to do this job. He also said from footage he'd seen the helicopters William was flying and the role he was in was one of the most basic, unskilled levels of pilot there is- so other than using William as some form of PR stunt, we really aren't in some urgent need of him doing this right now.

He could get a hazmat suit on and visit people in hospital, help at delivery depots, do something we really could need. but doubt this would ever happen as its not exciting or glamorous enough,