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Our human rights have been taken away

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Soph7777 · 29/03/2020 23:40

I know it's for a good cause.

I know it's to save lives.

But our basic human rights have been taken from under us, in the short space of a week.

I find this part most of all the scariest.

I'm really struggling mentally with government control to this extent.

How long can this last before people lose their minds and rebel?

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Kateplaysrugbyinmydreams · 30/03/2020 00:09

Oh ffs op! You're being ridiculous. Nobody likes this, nobody is enjoying it and if you want to be in a movie you didn't ask to be cast in, try working in the nhs right now. It's a frigging nightmare! But it's here and we have to tackle it.
You don't like being controlled? Well boo boo. Neither do I. But I'm guessing I'll find being unable to breathe due to double pneumonia a whole lot worse.

Nollett · 30/03/2020 00:09

No need to call others stupid.

Austerity kills.
Coronavirus kills.

Original poster
Soph7777 · 30/03/2020 00:09

I imagine all of you shooting me down must live perfect lives where your mental health is always intact.

Good luck to you.

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endofthelinefinally · 30/03/2020 00:10

It is a good thing the nhs staff aren't complaining about their human rights. They are risking their health and their lives to care for others.
I despair sometimes.

ChipotleBlessing · 30/03/2020 00:10

There’s a difference between finding it difficult and centralising that as a personal experience. It is difficult for everybody. I have no great desire to keep young kids in the house for six months. It’s frustrating not being able to just pop out wherever we want to. Everyone is going through this, no one is finding it easy. It’s not about whether you’re ‘a person who doesn’t like to be controlled’. We’ve all noticed that our ability to do what we want has been extensively curtailed.

StormyClouds · 30/03/2020 00:10

The main issue I have is that many police seem to be trying their best to lose the consent of the public by bullying, intimidating and harassing people, and extending the rules unilaterally.

I always knew there were a few power-hungry officers but there seem to be many more than I realised.

The other concern is the Suburban Stasi who are revelling in monitoring and reporting their neighbours. It's now easy to see where the Nazis got their informants from.

morriseysquif · 30/03/2020 00:10

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Neveranynamesleft · 30/03/2020 00:10

Well said..

EasterElf · 30/03/2020 00:11

I honestly don’t understand how people think it’s not even slightly miserable or noteworthy or depressing to have to stay at home all the time. You’re either in denial because we haven’t been going through this for very long yet, or your lives are utterly bleak and joyless and so you aren’t missing much by not being able to live them.

It’s perfectly possible to follow rules and still hate them. This isn’t One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest. We don’t all have to fall into tidy, smiling compliance and pretend everything is ok. I’m following the rules and doing all I should be, but I’m still perfectly free to express that it’s miserable and frightening and a massive infringement of my liberties.

MrEzraGoldberg · 30/03/2020 00:11

Many people on here are leaping like hungry lions on an injured gazelle (what a shit analogy) on anyone daring to suggest they're worried about loss of freedom. This doesn't automatically mean the worried individual is not complying with the rules. Just that they're human and y'know, feelings are not yet outlawed. I'm sure there'll be heaps of people happy when they are because then they can join the thought police.

MayTheGodsBeEverInYourFavour · 30/03/2020 00:11

Everyone is at risk. Everyone. Sure, certain categories of the population are known to be at much greater risk of not surviving the virus if they do contract it, but for the rest of us, it appears to be a lottery. Young, apparently healthy adults are dying of it. We don't know what the long term consequences could be - remember zika is often mild, or almost symptomless, except in unborn babies.

Grandmi · 30/03/2020 00:11

You can be as unhappy as all of us ...the whole situation is horrific but you are bloody lucky that you can stay at home!! Many of us have to deal with the situation head on and we do not have a choice...dealing with this problem is hideous, so be grateful that all you have to do is STAY AT HOME !!

Soph7777 · 30/03/2020 00:11

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Oneliner · 30/03/2020 00:11

Britain needs to work on it's resilience.

Fithles · 30/03/2020 00:12

Well #bekind lasted about 5 minutes didn't it?!

The OP is expressing concern about the status quo, including revealing feelings of worry and sadness.

Please think about how you are responding, at a time when we all have very limited support networks and a world turned on its head.

OP I completely understand what you are saying and I share your concerns (I'm also utterly appalled at the underfunding of the NHS and risks front line workers are exposed to, weirdly enough both sentiments can co-exist). I'd recommend backing off this thread and thinking of something else for a bit. Smile

StormyClouds · 30/03/2020 00:12

@endofthelinefinally

The NHS staff are not being held at gunpoint. All of them have voluntarily chosen to undertake their roles, and while they deserve our thanks, the deification is unnecessary.

Human rights are just as important in a crisis as any other time.

endofthelinefinally · 30/03/2020 00:13

No, OP, some of us have already lost loved ones, lost our health, struggle with grief, depression and anxiety every day.
We can still recognise the reality of the current situation.

endofthelinefinally · 30/03/2020 00:14

Deification?
Ridiculous.
Gratitude yes.

MrEzraGoldberg · 30/03/2020 00:14

I think I just had a post removed! Unless it didn't post....maybe the thought police are on to me.....

puds11 · 30/03/2020 00:15

What do you think should be happening then @Soph7777? I’d love to know your solution.

@feefee322 people who’ve had it can’t just crack on because they can spread the virus. Or is that ok because it wouldn’t kill you?

UYScuti · 30/03/2020 00:16

Soph, I totally get what you're saying and it's awful, I hate it😖but what's the alternative🙁
I know this is a really bad option but it's not as bad as the other one.
Honestly I'm not worried, we'll get our human rights back when we the engine started up again, this is doing a lot of damage but it's not as damaging as the alternative.
It's very stark but we have to face facts.

Target10 · 30/03/2020 00:16

It’s a challenge. No question. And we live in a society that has worked to promote the rights of the person, to stop people being put down or prevented from achieving what they are capable of because of who they are, where they were born, the race they belong to. This lockdown seems un-nerving because it seems at odds with those hard won freedoms. I think that’s a reasonable fear - those freedoms didn’t come easily and they’re not all won yet by a long shot. But those freedoms aren’t threatened by this. The drive to create those freedoms is the one that makes us comply with the advice, it’s concern for our fellow man. The reason the government is acting more strongly is to manage the people who only care about themselves.

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yatapina · 30/03/2020 00:17

@feefee322 assuming you're not just being a GF...

There is no other disease/virus or illness which rips through a population at this speed. Seasonal flu deaths do not accelerate into the hundreds consistently over a period of weeks. The world hasn't seen anything like this for generations FFS!

Lockdown is the only measures we have to attempt to contain it - sure if you want to risk it go ahead. But remember you couldn't go near another person because it's their right to live in safety - selfish arseholes-- would (and have been) caring on as normal with their children out and about because they can't object. In those circumstances I'd also say that those people wouldn't be accessing any healthcare within the lockdown period because they are helping to spread rather than eradicate.

BigChocFrenzy · 30/03/2020 00:17

It's natural to be unhappy about this;
we all miss normal life

We'll get our normal back again

  • although maybe foreign holidays might have to be banned until after the vaccination is available

But there is no chance that any government would want to keep everyone permanently locked up like this,
many not working, many needing to be subsidised at great cost, consumers buying the minimum ....

The economies around the world are bleeding out into a global Depression
Every government - left, right, centre, democracy, dictatorship - wants to restart their economies as soon as they dare