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Our human rights have been taken away

999 replies

Soph7777 · 29/03/2020 23:40

I know it's for a good cause.

I know it's to save lives.

But our basic human rights have been taken from under us, in the short space of a week.

I find this part most of all the scariest.

I'm really struggling mentally with government control to this extent.

How long can this last before people lose their minds and rebel?

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Vaginandtonic · 30/03/2020 11:58

Also, it's just science. It's a novel virus, we have no natural immunity, it's just what happens!

Amymayapple · 30/03/2020 11:59

@Vaginandtonic reported.

LondonJax · 30/03/2020 11:59

@Amymayapple the police wouldn't have to restrict people's freedoms if they did it themselves!

Two of my family are police officers. Do you think they enjoy telling idiot teenagers to move away from beaches and parks? Do you think they like telling parents they are being utterly twattish letting their kids play together in the park? Do you think they like to patrol riverbanks to make fishermen/women stop their hobby because they should be isolating?

Do you think they enjoy putting themselves in harms way from people who decide they're protecting their 'freedom' by spitting on an officer?

Get a grip.

cornishdreams1 · 30/03/2020 12:00

I think that using police force to restrict freedom of movement in our own country, is breaking a human right, under any circumstances

And I will tell you again, we do this every single day when we arrest people for affray, common assault and a multitude of other offences. It is perfectly legal to restrict freedom of movement, and we now have additional laws to support the new guidance.

You could argue we are in fact infringing human rights by allowing people to move around, and to become sick and potentially die??

You simply have no idea what you are talking about, and how more are like you. The same people having Karaoke parties I guess...depressing to say the least Sad

bodgeitandscarper · 30/03/2020 12:00

Seeing people gasping for breath, seeing the death of a baby in the states, seeing thousands die in a single day is evidence enough for me that we need to stay safe at home.

Amymayapple · 30/03/2020 12:00

I just have never been a person to blindly do what the government tell me, or think that they have my or the general populations best interests at heart.

Many governments have proven to be corrupt and selfish

Goingfarawsy · 30/03/2020 12:01

For anyone that’s interested in a different view on things than the mainstream media is giving out, here is an interesting article

europost.eu/en/a/view/necessary-measures-or-mass-panic-27724

Amymayapple · 30/03/2020 12:02

@cornishdreams1

Okay we can argue the point:

You think it is okay that I have been told I can only walk 2 km from my door.

I don't think that it is ok that I have been told that I can only walk 2 km from my door, or a policeman will challenge me.

Is it not okay for me to express that view?

strawberrylipgloss · 30/03/2020 12:02

Amy-Are roadblocks an infringement of our human rights? Or are they done to protect road users and/or people working on roads?

MarshaBradyo · 30/03/2020 12:03

Amy so you wouldn’t do it if they just asked you? Are you following the advice atm?

maslinpan · 30/03/2020 12:04

Go on then, Amy, you are in charge now. Tell us how exactly you would handle this without temporarily limiting human rights? We have seen how good the British are at getting round simple rules, so please share your vision of how to slow the spread of the pandemic.

LondonJax · 30/03/2020 12:05

Tell you what @Amymayapple why don't you ignore government advice? Test it if you're so sure you're right. You must have a few friends who agree with you. You can all try it out. Stay away from others though, who do think the government's right, but live your life. Let us know how you get on. Because if you're right, you'll be fine. If you're wrong though...

Ready to take the chance that you know best?

cornishdreams1 · 30/03/2020 12:06

nearly collaboration between parties works far better in this instance, and I am sorry to say the government will be the only ones making the big decisions, because otherwise we would get absolutely nothing done.

I agree in normal times it is healthy to debate solutions, options and things that could and should have been done better.

However it is not normal times, and it appears that no one from any party (not even the SNP) are going along with your idea of how things should be managed. They are pulling together, and so they should.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 30/03/2020 12:06

How do you know that @Vaginandtonic you have been told that about something that hasn't happened yet.

Because we've seen the effects in China, Italy and Spain and even they eventually enacted a lockdown.

1000 deaths a day in Italy and Spain. Imagine how bad it would be without a lockdown?

Or do you think the government should let it spread, kill however many hundreds of thousands and then after the event have a think about what they could have done?

You seriously cannot believe what you just wrote?

BeijingBikini · 30/03/2020 12:06

@Amymayapple I do agree with you there but it's the fact that nearly ALL governments around the world have done this. UK, Europe, India, Russia, China, USA. Governments that are VERY different and all get criticised for different things are now taking the same course of action. That wouldn't happen unless there was
a) a unanimously "best" thing to do
b) some dark forces sat round a table somewhere in the Bahamas telling all the governments what to do

b) seems unlikely so I'd like to think that a) is the case

Amymayapple · 30/03/2020 12:07

@MarshaBradyo I would have done it anyway - followed the advice.

I have been following the advice. I have barely left my flat in three weeks.

I don't like how they have been talking to us and basically talking to us like shit. We have a say

cornishdreams1 · 30/03/2020 12:08

You think it is okay that I have been told I can only walk 2 km from my door.I don't think that it is ok that I have been told that I can only walk 2 km from my door, or a policeman will challenge me. Is it not okay for me to express that view?

I am not sure you are for real Amy, okay, lets just reverse the question, why do YOU think they have put a 2k limit to your walk?

Hotchox · 30/03/2020 12:09

When all this is over we're going to have to put up with the likes of OP telling us it was all a waste of time because only a couple of 1000 people died (and more than that die of flu etc) - and they won't be accepting of the fact that god knows how many more would have died if we'd made no changes.

Amymayapple · 30/03/2020 12:10

@cornishdreams1

Emm I am not sure why you are wondering am I "for real" when I am replying to the OP's thread

"Our human rights have been taken away"

This was also the view that she expressed. You do know what thread you are on right?

Vaginandtonic · 30/03/2020 12:12

Well the chances are that, as a presumable young and healthy person, Amymayapple would be OK if they went about their daily life and caught the virus. But if everyone thought like Amy and went about their daily life, then even though Amy might be OK, hundreds of thousands of others wouldn't.

But as long as Amy is OK.....

cornishdreams1 · 30/03/2020 12:12

Answer the question Amy why do you think there is a 2k limit to your walk?

LondonJax · 30/03/2020 12:12

@Amymayapple 'We have a say'. Seriously? What the d-heads who had a karoke party have a say? The people jamming the beaches a weekend ago have a say?

What do you think they would be saying @Amymayapple? 'I want a karoke party', 'I want to meet 10 mates for a BBQ on the beach? And the government just says 'yeah, OK. Cos that's your human right and we don't want to impinge so our NHS staff can just get on with it'.

Or do they say 'don't be prats, isolate and do as you're told because our NHS have had to have two emergency hospitals put together with 9000 beds between them and they can't cope with more!

Having your human right to roam is only good whilst you're alive.

As for not being told what to do - do you break the speed limit? Do you educate your children (at school or at home)? Because they're just two things that you don't 'have to do' but do because the government tells you to.

Lweji · 30/03/2020 12:14

This thread is the reason Governments have to implement stricter restrictions. Sad

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 30/03/2020 12:14

Our human rights have been taken away"

How many human rights do you have when you are dead Amy?

How about the human rights of the drs and nurses? Or do they not count?

cornishdreams1 · 30/03/2020 12:16

Maybe Amy wants to be the social experiment total of one?

Be my guest Amy, just carry on walking and socialising if you want to, and if you think this is all just a joke and a government inspired hoax to enforce lockdowns for kicks you just go ahead, no one has been able to talk any sense into you on here. Perhaps an ICU full of dying people will be a moment of enlightenment for you who know. I actually give up.

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