To ask why people are worried about 5G?

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Some are even linking it to covid 19! So if you are worried about 5G is it due to radiation? Do you think it will cause cancer?can you point me to research?

Is there any peer reviewed science to proof that G5 is 100% safe though? United Nations have already expressed their worries over safety of 5G so it is not just complete rubbish @amotherof6 a bit surprising how some people are so stressed over anonymous forum. People just C H I L L!

The number of threads where someone is really worried about having the virus or they've lost a loved one is much smaller than I've been expecting.

Maybe those people are choosing to do something other than spend time on MN?

@RuffleCrow You are right. I dont know a single person dead with corona virus. I live accross 2 countries within EU so it is a bit strange

I dont know a single person dead with corona virus. I live accross 2 countries within EU so it is a bit strange

If you look at the deaths per million population, it's not strange at all.

5G is much more powerful than 4G and I think people who believe that it causes CV are just concluding (whether correctly or incorrectly) that 5G masts must have sufficient levels of ionising radiation to disrupt cells within our body.
We are told the ionising radiation levels are not sufficient to do that to us.

Surely this could easily be debunked by analysis of where patients who contract CV live, work and have visited or travelled to/from?

(I am not of the opinion it has anything to do with 5G).

• I think people who believe that it causes CV are just concluding (whether correctly or incorrectly) that 5G masts must have sufficient levels of ionising radiation to disrupt cells within our body. We are told the ionising radiation levels are not sufficient to do that to us. *

5G radiation is nowhere near ionising radiation wavelengths. It's lower frequency/energy than visible light. That aspect simply isn't a subject for 'belief' or 'people being told'.

I watched a documentary about 5G towers and people measuring the radiation nearby and it does spread a shit load of radiation. I think its like 30% over the allowed "legal" limits

It is exactly this kind of comment that is plain wrong and highly irresponsible

1. What documentary - please link
2. Who produced it, what were their scientific credentials
3. The “shitload” of radiation that was measure - who did it, how did they ensure they were only measuring radiation from that mast et etc the key point being - were these rigorous scientific conditions
4. You talk about “radiation” as if you don’t understand what it is. There is “shitloads” of radiation everywhere without a single electronic device being plugged in anywhere. The sun, radioactive rocks etc. As I’ve said several times before in this thread light is radiation, heat from the sun (infra red) is radiation, the screen you are looking at at the moment is blasting you with billions upon billions of photons - is radiation. So go and read about the electromagnetic spectrum.
5. What are the legal limits of radiation? Please link credible source.

So yes questioning information is critical - it’s what every single scientist has to do.

But people do show themselves to be ignorant and poorly educated if they do not consider the source and calibre the of the information. To understand this you really do need to understand a certain degree of science.

Also, it is imperative you understand the difference between causality and correlation.

And the reason I am strongly judging back against this is that the consequence of believing quack science is fatal. A sad but we’ll know example being anti-vaxxers refusal to accept the dangers of not protecting your children from common but deadly illnesses such as measles. The number of measles deaths is growing- it doesn’t need to. Google the measles death rate in Samoa- it’s a tragedy.

So yes question - always question. But read from proper sources and don’t just parrot any old source from the internet (and I’ve said before, that includes me - look up some of the statements I’ve made about the electromagnetic spectrum and see if they are consistent with sources - such as university websites or bbc bitesize even - and see if it is consistent)

bbc bitesize even

If you didn't do, or didn't understand, or have forgotten GCSE/O level physics and chemistry, that's a good place to start. Similarly re A levels, before you try to understand university level material (though unis may produce some material with a 'public understanding of science' remit, which may be useful)

Again, for @NotEverythingIsBlackandwhite
Here is a snapshot of the electromagnetic spectrum.

Visible light radiation has around 1000x the energy of 5G radiation. It is not ionising I the slightest. Microwaves heat things the microwaves are “absorbed” by the O-H bond in water. That is why they heat the food and not the plate (the plate gets warm due to another heat transfer mechanism - conduction - from the warm food to the cold plate)

There have been centuries of research on the electromagnetic spectrum the part of it used in 5G is not new, or recently “invented”. It is extremely well understood.

The issues around Huawei and 5G are very political and not related to the science. It’s about spying and potential human rights infringements. But I don’t know enough to comment further.

I watched a documentary about 5G towers... on youtube by a guy in his mum's basement. did you click on the paypal donate button?

"....a question that can only be answered after its fully rolled out in every town of this country." that is rubbish too. We don't test if knives are sharp by sticking them in people or that cyanide is a poison by putting it in school dinners. There are sciences like biology and physics that can be studied and researched. We've been doing that for a long time on this planet. I don't know about on yours.