And I shall say it again. We are allowed out once a day for fresh air

[Borkins]

It's like there is competitive isolation or folk who think they know better than government guidelines.

@Egghead68 Not people in the very vulnerable groups

My GP begs to differ. He told me on the phone this evening that if I need a walk then I should take one while being as careful as I can be, which is exactly what I am doing.

@Lweji FGS nobody thinks life is as normal

And I think that you'll find that it's not possible for all families to get what they need in one shop once a week or fortnight at the moment. I have some very hungry teenagers and normally shop 3 times a week to wrap around everybody's activities and to not waste fresh food. Now the shelves in the shops are stripped bare.

I should have panic bought weeks ago. But we're all wise in hindsight.

I really need to remind a lot of people on here that not everyone has a garden.
Sure, some people will have no bother staying home, as home will include a detached house, an acre of land and plenty of home comforts. If you live in a block of flats and go off into the woods, and don't touch anything, then good on you, you are staying sane for the long haul (and it will be a long haul).
This is becoming the equivalent of "take in some ironing" as advice for the poor.

@Lweji who am I suppose to trust ?
He's set the rules like it or not he's my leader or some random person on internet who most probably knows nothing .
If I go for a run on my own I see no one I'm not going to be tempted to see a friend because that's not allowed so there is no risk . Your assuming that people will go out they will go here & there and see whoever but most people are observing this as we really want it to work . It's such a shame you feel the need to judge and decide that I'm not capable of following instructions.

I'm currently trying to explain to my IL's that the exercise out of the house isn't some kind of giant loophole.

They walked from one town to ours to see our kids through the window (we are in isolation due to myself and DS2 showing symptoms last week - we have now recovered but still have 7 days of isolation). They were out of the house for nearly three hours.

They've never exercised a day in their life. Their garden is bigger than the play park I take my kids to. There just is no need to be out for that long.

At the end of their visit here, they mentioned youngest BIL, who lives with them is currently in bed with a temperature. Why the fuck were they even out of the house?! Let alone walking around for nearly three hours! Honestly, these are well educated people in their late 50's and just won't listen to reason.

*I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again. Some people are revelling in this, taking some kind of masochistic pleasure. It’s like the most exciting thing that’s ever happened to them and now they get to feel important by telling people how stupid/illiterate/awful they are. You see it all over Facebook- someone asks a sensible enough question and they pile on - how stupid ARE you, how many times do you need to be TOLD etc.

It’s horrible and helps nobody. Folk with a genuine interest in their fellow human beings’ well being can at least behave with some compassion.*

Exactly this. Some people seem to be enjoying it!

In case some pps haven't noticed, I distinguished between living in a house and in places with communal areas.

As I said, each individual going for a short walk or run isn't going to catch coronavirus.
However, if everyone gets out, at some point, parks and tracks have crowds of people as normal. That is not advisable. By any reasonable government. And it hasn't been.

Each one of us has to use our judgement and evaluate their individual circumstances.
If you can go for a walk or your allotment, or wherever, without coming close to people or touching lots of surfaces that can be contaminated, fine, do it.
If you live in a populated area, in flats, or have to come in contact with potentially infected people and surfaces, then stay at home as much as you can.

I live in a country where many people started isolating earlier than government advice, and where people have demanded closures and stricted measures by the government.
Following government advice to the letter and going lalala won't help contain this thing.

Remember that there will be people not following rules at all. If as many of us can be stricter, all the better.

I live just off a busy high street. I tried to go out a walk from my house on Friday and there were just too many people to maintain social distancing and lots of kids just running about. You go past my house to get to kids playground. So yes driving 10 minutes and going a walk is much safer.

My family went for a walk today. There was a dog walking so we jay-walked crossed the road so we weren't on the same side. We waved at a small child looking out of an upstairs window, smiled at someone on their drive and then heartily waved at one of dd's friends who was walking on the opposite side of the (3 lane) road.

I don't think it will happen much, the DC moaned all the way round.

who am I suppose to trust?
He's set the rules like it or not he's my leader or some random person on internet who most probably knows nothing .

Fine, do your own research. Look at what other leaders are advising. Look at what the WHO is advising. Look at doctors in hospitals are asking.
Take a look at all the ways in which the virus can be transmitted.
See how it can be spread well before people develop symptoms and by people who never show symptoms.
See how long it can stay in surfaces.
See how many people have to stay in hospital and in what conditions.
Take a look at how fast it is spreading. Consider that the number of official cases in the UK are underestimated because not enough testing is being done.

Then decide what to do.

Some people revel in it for sure

Unless you really need the exercise, just stay at home

Everyone, unless they have health problems that prevent them, needs exercise and star jumps/running on the spot etc for cardio aren’t suitable for everyone.

I went out for a fast, arms pumping walk today around the side streets of SW London. Deserted, except for a few others like me. I was cheered by the way everyone behaved - with someone coming in the opposite direction, one person would move into the road ( no cars moving at all ) to maintain at least a 2m distance, with maybe a rueful smile or nod.

Sad to see the gate to the playground locked - but also pleased to see no one had abused the low height and gone in anyway.

Look, I followed the emergence of this virus from the first news. I was fairly relaxed at first. I thought that the usual test and track would be enough. It isn't for this virus. I changed my mind and behaviour and habits very quickly over over a week or less. I was happily going to go for a walk even 3 days ago, but then decided against it. The more it progresses, the more the need for isolation becomes urgent.
The price of not taking it seriously enough is Italy. It's Spain.

Deserted, except for a few others like me.
It works well when most people do stay at home. Not if everyone decides they need a walk.

Some people absolutely love telling others they can not leave the house at all (;not true) and it is time to give up their exercise/running completely.

They then berate people for being vain and wanting a beach body (wot?!) and shout that they should just.stay.home. or they are undeserving of life

I always imagine these beraters to be very unfit and unhappy people, trying to drag everyone down

It’s psychologically weird how much untruth they spout as well (like on here: “you are NOT allowed to go for fresh air, you must never leave the house” just not true)

*I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again. Some people are revelling in this, taking some kind of masochistic pleasure. It’s like the most exciting thing that’s ever happened to them and now they get to feel important by telling people how stupid/illiterate/awful they are. You see it all over Facebook- someone asks a sensible enough question and they pile on - how stupid ARE you, how many times do you need to be TOLD etc.

It’s horrible and helps nobody. Folk with a genuine interest in their fellow human beings’ well being can at least behave with some compassion.*

100% this.

I live in a village where everyone knows everyone. I went out for the first time today after self isolation due to a member of the household having a cough (with the dog and the DD’s).
There were far more people out walking than there is usually (I walk the dog at the same time every night). I also saw lots of families we know. We still managed to maintain a safe distance from everyone we saw. We waved to people we know across the road, and weren’t ‘tempted’ to get too close , as we’re not stupid. People were respectful and crossed the roads when they saw others approaching.

@Lweji I give up with you your hard work , 3 days ago you we're happy to go for a run now your not and you expect everyone to ignore Boris and what he's been advised because you know better .
You may be right and you never know in a few days more restrictions ie distance and time will be put in place but right now we can go for a run if we wish . I go for 40 minutes on my own and if I see anyone I cross the road .

I don´t see why being outside would mean you have to pop into a shop or would be tempted to get too close if you meet friends. I think people are capable of more self-control than that.

@Hippydoodledoo8 She walks 5 dogs separately? Bloody hell, when does she have time to do anything else?!

I think people are capable of more self-control than that

Well, I dunno about that

But some folk, I sense, just revel in being holier than thou. Enjoy the thought of everyone being locked down and living in a policed country because their own lives are pretty locked down anyway.

Yes, and there will be a pretty huge overlap in the Venn diagram of these people and those (twats) who spend their time reporting posts on Mumsnet to give themselves a warm glow.

It's at times like these I thank my lucky stars that I live 50 yards away from a quiet footpath leading to woodland, and I really feel for those, not only here in the UK, but in so many places all over the world, who do not have that luxury.

Deserted, except for a few others like me.
It works well when most people do stay at home. Not if everyone decides they need a walk

Not sure what point you are trying to make there .

If the streets had been full, I wouldn’t have gone. I could see it was quiet. I am not dim.

The price of not taking it seriously enough is Italy. It's Spain.

So should we ban the opening of windows? Should people be shot for venturing outside?
Are people going out sensibly for exercise really the ones spreading it when we lack PPE in hospitals? It's a bastard of a virus no doubt but making people ill before they catch it has negative consequences also.

We need to follow instructions it's as simple as that.