Are these things allowed in lockdown?

[ComeOnEileen2020]

These weren’t included in Boris’s list but are things affecting me currently:

Car due for mot Friday (need to wait til then for pay day). Need it to get to my essential job.

Hermes/other courier deliveries - I’ve sent loads of stuff this weekend that I sold on EBay. Non essential. Old baby toys. They’re waiting to be delivered to my buyers. Will they still be delivered or should I start refunding?

your car MOT can de delayed contact DVLC or go onto their website , I think not sure during this time they are giving us extra 30 days.

walking your dog will be classed as your 1x exercise. if usually taken out few times you will need to split it amongst other family members.

Well done pp on applying for the job. So many supermarket workers will be off because they are vulnerable / sick / isolating / caring for their children, we need others who are willing to take their place, so that the rest of us can keep feeding our families. I’m actually so grateful risking their health - often for minimum wage - so that we can still buy what we need.

*So grateful to the people that should read.

I guess Anne Frank only survived two years concealed in an attic because she didn’t have nail extensions or a dog.

As someone upthread said, if there was a pandemic raging which affected dogs rather than humans then dog-owners would absolutely find a way to keep their pets at home 24/7.

MOT suspended for 6 months. HMRC website.

Thank you. www.gov.uk/government/news/vehicle-owners-to-be-granted-mot-exemption-in-battle-against-coronavirus

We have one due over Easter so I will not now book it in. Presumably the insurers will still renew the insurance.

Actually check the date on the MOT you need because it is not quite immediate

"Legislation will be introduced on March 30 and will come into immediate effect for 12 months, following a short consultation with key organisations. Drivers will still need to get their vehicle tested until the new regulations come into place, if they need to use it."

So if it were due today you would the MOT as the new rules are not yet in place. i think ours is April but I will check. I did notice a local garage with a new street sign for MOTs earlier when I went out to buy necessary food.

For separated/divorced parents

www.judiciary.uk/announcements/coronavirus-crisis-guidance-on-compliance-with-family-court-child-arrangement-orders/

Please do not suggest that a parent leaves their children at home with anyone who is not already part of the household. That is potentially dangerous advice and contrary to the new guidelines.

Sorry I did not know.

Then she will have to bring her children with her unless they are older children who can stay in the house alone until she comes back.

I think the law is that the child must be over 10 to be able to leave them in the house alone. But I am not sure as I don't have any kids.

There's no set age. You just have to make a sensible / reasonable decision, depending on the maturity of the child.

I'd happily leave an 8 year old at home for an hour while I went to the supermarket. It the current situation, I'd go younger. You have to balance risks. And I'd rather leave a small child in a cot for an hour than take it into a possibly virus ridden supermarket.

Have you watched the videos of the Italian mayors having a go at people for not following the rules? One says he is a runner and being running for 20 years and the town normally only has 20 other runners tops. But suddenly everyone is a marathon runner.

@alloutoffucks I think another one threatened to arm the police with flamethrowers if they didn't get indoors!

But suddenly everyone is a marathon runner.
Well that will be because every other sport is now prohibited.
Exercise is very important to people for whom it is a habit. I can already feel my mood worsening and it's only day 4. Please don't have a go at people who are working out how to exercise safely.

Ferrier I am in the shielded group and go a long walk every day. I now can't go outside, please don't tell me about how this affects your mood.

And straight away there's one
Yes - I have sympathy for you. But please don't lose all regard for everyone else whose circumstances you have no clue about.

But suddenly everyone is a marathon runner

This is heartening. Running strengthens the lungs. The more people running (at appropriate distances apart), the better.

I have never in 20 years of living on this quiet suburban road seen so many people on it as yesterday from horses to bikes to runners to walkers. It is probably a coronavirus hot spot too as we are in the worst London borough for that with a full hospital. It is crammed with children on the road too. Normally we are a dormitory suburb with no one around in the day so in a sense the measures have pushed people from inner London jobs and schools out into very close proximity of people who live on roads people want to walk on.

@nicenewdusters

I'll correct that for you for many people who have mental health issues

Risk to life of not leaving your home to "exercise" - >=50% also include in that the risk to the life of some families of those with mh issues

Risk to life, yours and others, if you do - very much under 50% probably under 1% with following social distancing rules

Some people can manage to refrain from exercising outside for 3 weeks, but not everybody. Exercise is vital to my mental health, I am autistic and it's my way of stopping myself from going in to meltdown. Children (and adults) also need the vitamin D from the sun, to prevent rickets. There is a reason that getting exercise outside the home was included in the list.
(btw being autistic means that social distancing is my life, for me people staying 2m away is my idea of heaven)

You can't always have what you want. I'd like to pretend I don't live in a country full of selfish morons. I'm not going to get that wish am I?

I'd like to live in a world where everybody realised that mental health is as important as and linked to (in both directions) physical health. Where people understand that for some of us the mh implications of this virus are actually more scary than the virus itself.

Firef1y72

I totally accept the points made in your post. I have an understanding of this issue from both a professional and personal perspective. My comments were made in the context of continuing frustration, at the many people interpreting the current guideline on exercise as a loophole to go out for hours as though nothing has changed.

Should too many people flout the letter and spirit of these guidelines, people such as yourself, who genuinely need to exercise for their mental well being, may well suffer from a resulting more draconian lock down. I don't wish that for you, I wish you well.

Get my Hermes to pick it up from your house for ebay z

But suddenly everyone is a marathon runner

Dh is actually an ultra marathon runner....he went out 3 hours ago and I don’t expect him back for some time.

FGS ridiculous people saying that they have to exercise outside for their mental health!!! I cannot quite believe the selfishness of you. Run up and down the stairs for an hour. Run round the garden for an hour, follow an exercise routine on youtube outside etc (oh here we go "I live in a bungalow" :I have no garden" excuses excuses, you should be wholly ashamed of yourselves. What if you had a relative in intensive car for the last month like I have and you have been sat at their bedside for 24/7? Tell me you miss your exercise now. I hope you are ashamed, because I can't quite believe these excuses. (And I'm not even going to talk about dog owners with no bloody garden FFS)

Words completely fail me at this "mental health" get out clause, I'm sorry but jeez!!!!!!!!

@callmeadoctor

My bipolar disorder isn't a get out clause. And outdoor exercise is actually part of my WRAP with my community mental health team. And I've done it even when in a locked psychiatric unit (a staff member accompanied me) because it was as important as medicine to my recovery.

And I have maintained it when my daughter was admitted to hospital as a baby- it was really important then.

And the problem with exercising inside is that it doesn't allow me to be alone (two children an a dh) and I have someone wanting to do it with me, asking me questions etc. Not really beneficial to the whole switching off thing.

I've contacted my NHS psychiatrist who says it is absolutely virally important that I continue this as long as possible. If we go into a stricter lockdown she will look at anythinf they can do to facilitate it.

And I'd be more than happy to give it up and also give up my mental illness.

Garden?