Are these things allowed in lockdown?

[ComeOnEileen2020]

These weren’t included in Boris’s list but are things affecting me currently:

Car due for mot Friday (need to wait til then for pay day). Need it to get to my essential job.

Hermes/other courier deliveries - I’ve sent loads of stuff this weekend that I sold on EBay. Non essential. Old baby toys. They’re waiting to be delivered to my buyers. Will they still be delivered or should I start refunding?

Not that I want to get it of course but I need a job...

Will criminals, burglars, car thieves and general gobshites obey the rules by staying in I wonder
Going by the answers on this thread, no they won't.
Coronavirus coming to a town/city/village next to you, courtesy of the "I don't give a fuck" brigade.
All those saying Boris wasn't clear, needs clarification. Are you expecting a personal message from him to tell you what to do? Why are you unable to make a decision about your safety. You've seen the statistics, you know the risks, well you would if only you'd been listening.
If the citizens of the U.K. cannot take heed of the very clear message from the Prime Minister. Then the U.K. is fucked.

chriss of course you can - the point is to avoid people! so no chatting right over the fence.
PM even said that not all of us have their own green spaces hence the parks will stay open for exercise.

To add that it’s only one shop I have in mind to apply for and it’s a 10 min walk from my house so no public transport or anything.

We've just had an increase in the 2am car racers in your area - never used to be on a Monday. Bored already off work, obviously, bloody idiots - no consideration for anyone's sleep, so why would they be considerate re the virus.

our, not 'your'

I think that being in lockdown and seeing how it affects essential services will bring everything into focus. We’ve been in lockdown for a week and my friend’s DD had to give birth on her own in hospital because no one was allowed to go with her. No one, including the father, was allowed to meet the baby until she was discharged (3 days later). Another friend has had his specialist appointment for his newly diagnosed prostate cancer put back for six weeks. We are all edgy, trying not to get injured by doing something stupid but everyday so as to not add to the burden.

There are so many jobs being advertised right now in supermarkets and I am not working right now so was going to apply, I live alone so I wouldn’t be putting anyone at risk but myself, is this a bad idea to apply? I do need the cash though

Seriously? You are asking strangers on the internet if you should apply? Can you not think for yourself? The mind boggles!

Seriously? You are asking strangers on the internet if you should apply? Can you not think for yourself? The mind boggles

I think questions should be encouraged. Otherwise people continue to be unsure.

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Previous advice from PPs is incorrect.
See here -
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachmentdata/file/874738/Fulllguidanceonnstayingatthomeanddawayfromm_others.pdf

See footnote 1 to the 3rd bullet point under para 1.

This makes it clear that you are allowed to transport children between homes for contact. The footnote was added after this was first published at 8.30pm, presumably in response to the query having been raised by countless parents. I expect CAFCASS will issue formal advice tomorrow (it's current advice is based on the previous self distancing so is out of date).

I am a family lawyer and this is the advice I will be giving. So one parent cannot use the lockdown to say that the DCs must stay with them and can't see the other parent. Unless there is a genuine reason why moving between homes would represent a genuine increased risk - eg lengthy journey via pubic transport, or there are symptoms in the household, or a vulnerable person in one of the households - then the children can and should travel between homes. The court will follow the govt advice and apply common sense.

The vast majority of hearings will now take place by telephone, as decreed by the President of the Family Division. I have also heard Skype but my local court is using only telephone to conduct hearings. If you have a hearing coming up please phone the court to check.

I am relieved by the contents if the speech. It means I can shop for myself and my husband and 3 other vulnerable people so 4 households.(I just leave the supplies by the door for my mum and then my elderly aunt)
I care for my son who lives 8 miles away and I am also a key worker -my school is 30 miles away so will have to drive there twice a week for the next 2 weeks.
I thought it would be a lot worse. When not doing the above I will be at home.

My daughter and son in law are frontline NHS, my other Daughter has an illness that would be counted as an ‘ underlying condition ‘, my Mum is in her 80s, I work in a supermarket.
Please don’t do anything that will put my family members in any more danger than they are already in.
Please don’t put your family and friends in any more danger than they are already in.
Don’t be responsible for someone’s death.
Stay inside.

I Despair.... Why worry about " trivialities Between life and Death, everything else can be resolved

@TooTrusting Thank you so much for this, it's helped to calm my fears somewhat.

My ex-husband has sadly used the Covid-19 situation as yet another means to attempt to control. His main excuses as to why I "wouldn't be seeing my children to the forseeable future" are that I am pregnant and that my mum had cancer 2 years ago.

I strongly believe my childen are being held against their wishes.

Whilst I fully appreciate the severity of the emergency situition our country is in and have been complying with all of the government's requests, the horrendous psychological damage that will inevitably occur to both myself and my children if we could not see each other for 18 months or more (which my ex is alluding to) must be considered.

@TooTrusting The next tactic that will be used is for my ex to say that one of the members of his household is exhibiting symptoms.

May I ask for your advice in this instance?

I was wondering about B&Q as I need a repair to my house so I can have hot water. It does say hardware stores will be open but will an electrician be allowed to fit it ?

I read that in France/Italy animal welfare stuff is counted as essential. So I’d have thought a cat blood test would come under essential as they only tend to have them when poorly not as a routine check up? But yes, ring the vet. Our vets is making people stay in the car and they collect animals from car boots and the owner isn’t allowed in. Vet returns the animal to the car.

@Bluntness100 exercise can be monitored. In France the state have made a form that needs to printed or copied out by hand if you don't have access to a printer - it is long and takes a lot of copying. Initially you could fill it in and store it on your phone but then they tightened the rules to paper only. Now if it has been further tightened so that it needs to state where you are going (exact route if it's for the 1km permitted for outdoor exercise), why and the time you left the house. Once you are out the police are stopping you to check the paper and if it isn't correct there are fines and potential jail sentences. Of course our exercise can be monitored - we just weren't expecting that because we are blasé and still seem to believe that our lives are about individual choice not the collective good. Our whole lives have changed for the current and governments are now prepared to do whatever it takes to stop the spread of this virus and people need to really realise this.

@Dollywilde My good friend just had to give birth alone in a Czech hospital without the Czech speaking husband that she was depending on for language and obviously support. The knock on effect of this is so horrible but we women are strong and we cope. Good luck

On the subject of people with dogs worried about exercising them. If you cut their carbs down they will lose the urge to exercise so much.

Part of my day job is advising clients with a crated dog recovering from orthopaedic surgery.

You need to feed according to how you are planning their energy expenditure (just like us) rather than carry on feeding as normal and then being under the cosh of exercising fido three times a day to stop him climbing the walls.

A crated dog can live on easily half what he/she had prior to the injury/surgery and the lower calories takes the edge clean off them.

I have not read the full thread, but I've just seen in the government site, that we can bring children to their other home and collect. So they can go to their dads

In case someone needs this

Watching GMB this morning, Susanna Reid asked Michael Gove about contact and he has said children should stay at one house🤷🏻‍♀️

Signgrudge That's probably applicable to all of us now that we're all crated!

Probably a stupid question, but am feeling a bit anxious about things at the moment. I live in a flat - am i ok to assume that I am allowed outside to take rubbish and recycling to rhe communal bins? Or should I be doing this at the start of going out for a walk so I only go out once? The bins are at the edge of our car park. And is going into the communal garden to hang out washing ok?