If you were one of them, why?

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-51998512

Please see link, loads flood the tescis NHS hour, ignoring the why the NHS hour exists.
Also in news on TV last night everyone Congregating in parks and at beach.

Why?
Why us it just not sinking in wiith you all?
Please explain your logic and how you would feel if government just got sick of you not listening that they put in heavier restrictions and the army to police it simply because you couldn't manage to do it yourself?

This is why we need lockdown

It won't really make that much difference. There aren't enough police and armed forces to patrol every street in Britain and the selfish thick people will quickly find ways round it.

We've got drone surveillance in Spain.

I'd be really interested to know how many have been watching the daily press briefings (either live on BBc1 at about 5pm or you can watch them later on youtube). If you don't, I'd REALLY recommend that you do.

Get past the bit with Boris, there's actually really useful, factual updates from the medical/ scientists and often they explain the logic/ evidence behind certain decisions.

Yesterday Jenny Harris - in answer to a question on Mother's Day - said that small family gatherings were actually the most risky because you are so familiar and intimate with your family group you don't keep a distance.

I think the government advice just hasn’t been clear enough. If the message was “Stay at home, have no one to your house, do not go to the shops more than every 3 days, nominate only one person from your family to go to the shops for the next month, each person is allowed to exercise outside in maximum group of 2 (except single parents with children under 12) for maximum 1 hour a day, when at the shops/exercising stay 2m apart else £1000 on the spot fine, if you have to visit someone for caring reasons nominate one person only, ideally in a household where everyone is working from home, as their designated visitor” people would know much more clearly how they should behave.

Instead it’s all “practice social distancing” which is so vague and a new concept so everyone interprets it differently.

XingMing

It depends how you interpret intelligence. Some of the most academically brilliant people I know have very little common sense

And equally the people I know who are academically lacking have the most common sense.

I think this is also about being entitled.
Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should.
Just because some one hasn’t individually spelled out the dangers to you doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

You have to use a bit of critical thinking and do what keeps you safe and in turn keeps others safe.

*doubt

I think that people still can't get everyday essentials like loo roll and pasta so they are queuing for them regardless of the risk. If we run out of toilet roll then what can we use, we don't have old news papers.

I've gone full circle on this. After getting frustrated with the me, me, me "I've assessed the risk to me" brigade, I'm now back to focussing on hiding in my house and leaving everyone to it. As long as I know I and my immediate family are isolating, I have, for my MH and stress levels, concluded that I can't stop people from mixing and spreading the virus and I can't be responsible for other people's actions.

It's very sad. The advice is soo simple. I care for my Mum and Dad (Practically, emotionally) every day. I visit them every day. Except that from yesterday, I didn't. It's hard - they are vulnerable and lonely. But to protect them I need to stay away.

helgahelga

You are supposed to have NO contact with anyone unless you have no choice like shopping.

I didn't see my Mum yesterday.

I despair.

What's really sad is that Helga and her like minded offspring will never understand that their behaviour is irresponsible. They don't even have the excuse of being old and set in their ways.

It's estimated that there are probably 100,000 people incubating the virus at the moment, many will have met up with family yesterday. They probably had a hug and kiss when they met.

My Brother is not seeing his Daughter because her Mum is doing the sensible thing. He can still speak to her and face time her. He is probably very sad about this but he's not stupid.

@Lougle are they ok with pc and wifi? I can highly recommend video calling. It's not the same, but it's something and it can be actually even fun.

I could actually cry after this weekend and seeing people acting entitled and ignorant.

@BonnesVacances that's the place I'm trying to get to. Just focus on me and my actions, it's bloody hard not to get riled up by others though whether that's people on this or other social media or those in 'real life'.

I’m 40, I’m a gym goer, I play netball. I just had to go on a mission to have a wee because my lungs aren’t working properly and the walk from bed to en suite was as much as I can manage. I’m sure I’ll be ok but the lack of ability to process oxygen is real, please try what you can not to get it, you are probably going to get it but if everyone tries not to then the flow of people needing breathing assistance will be a steady flow not a tidal wave.

Go home... sit down, get a blood clot and or pneumonia, contact your local health service for your symptoms and get told it's probably corona and keep soldiering on at home.

@Fruitsaladjelly i hope you get better soon! And thank you for sharing. Lots of people think that fit and healthy are just absolutely safe.

@helgahelga you really ought to listen to what you're being told. I speak as someone with four children who will not be visiting me because we all have common sense. You know you can be infectious for quite a while before symptoms appear? Well imagine this scenario. Your son has the virus, but isn't yet showing symptoms. He visits you, maybe doesn't kiss you because you're being "sensible", but he has a coffee while he's with you and spreads the virus to you, because after he's gone you handle his cup and without thinking , scratch that itch on your face. Before you show symptoms, you pass the virus to your husband, who continues to work, because he doesn't know that he has it. He spreads it round his place of work, and as a result a lot of people get it and continue spreading it, including to very vulnerable people, because naturally they all have to go shopping and touch surfaces in shops, so the old lady down the road who has taken advantage of the hour for vulnerable people to shop, in the hopes she will be safe, picks it up from her shopping trolley, and is unable to survive such a devastating virus. And all because you were selfish enough to think that you and your family are a special case, and can't possibly use Skype to keep in touch. Shame on you! You are very definitely "one of those".

There were a couple of times where people were coming towards us and we went single file to get past, which was a bit worrying, but think in our area, numbers of Coronavirus are still fairly low.

But unfortunately they're not testing within the community, only in hospital. My DD2 (8) almost certainly had it, but she wasn't tested because back then (3rd March when she became ill), because they were only testing people who had been in infected regions overseas or had direct contact with a confirmed case.

I caught it for her and I've had it for 2 weeks now, persistent cough, chest pains, spiking temperature, and breathing difficulties. I've clearly got it but I haven't been diagnosed. There will be many others like me.

With the Tesco thing where we were, there were no queues going in, and then it suddenly got much busier inside. I didn't really know what to expect. I was trying to do some social distancing over my trolley. I think I wouldn't choose a Sunday morning again, there was a factor of being a bit stuck with the kids off school on the Friday. so I think lots of people must have gone for it.

Those people sitting on the benches outside the pubs or going into a lot of shops to browse .... Well, I hope they are not related to someone like either one of my parents (who would win the Olympics, if nagging was an Olympic discipline.) If you do something wrong, they can bring it up in relation to absolutely any topic.

"Oh, it would have been nice if your Nan could have lived to see your sister getting married, but I guess it was just more important to you to go to the pub during the CORVID19".

"Nan did like a good curry too. If only you had kept away from the curries during the CORVID19 crisis. Oh well."
"Nan did like a nice sunny day like this, if only you hadn't been so selfish during the CORVID19".

We know from "Get Brexit done" that people like short easy to remember messages.

Don't get infected
Don't pass infection on to anyone else.

I'd like to remind people that because you are under 60 or have no underlying health conditions you are not immune. You could get pneumonia which is covered by mild/moderate and some people who survived in China have reduced lung functio.