If you were one of them, why?

[Insideimsprinting]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-51998512

Please see link, loads flood the tescis NHS hour, ignoring the why the NHS hour exists.
Also in news on TV last night everyone Congregating in parks and at beach.

Why?
Why us it just not sinking in wiith you all?
Please explain your logic and how you would feel if government just got sick of you not listening that they put in heavier restrictions and the army to police it simply because you couldn't manage to do it yourself?

[ilikemethewayiam]

The Helgas of this world are why we will eventually have lock down, why we will have Army on the streets, why we will have rationing. You can’t appeal to people’s ‘better nature’ like Boris seems to think you can because some people clearly don’t have one!. I haven’t seen my 78 year Mum for a couple of months now. She is staying way from everyone. I speak to her over FT and my siblings drop her shopping ont he doorstep and retreat. I would love to have been there with her yesterday and fussed her but ensuring she lives to see another one was more important to me. God people are thick!

[adaline]

How can you seal off a beach though? It's impossible:

It's happened in Australia, I'm sure it can happen here. There's talk of the army getting involved in keeping people in their homes.

I know what you're saying, though. I live extremely rurally and I can go for a walk for hours and not see a single soul!

[TheGreatWave]

Surely it depends on the beach. Some which are more of a cove may have only one (or two) way on, others are very open and easily accessible.

[Jaxhog]

don't think I am any more likely to get coronavirus from my 2 DC visiting for an hour, than I am to get it from going to the shops. Also, DH is still going to work, (he can't work from home,) so is just as likely to bring it home as my DC.

You are missing the whole point of this. It isn't about YOU getting ill. It's about you risking spreading it to/from every single person you come into contact with. Social distancing is about reducing the total number of person to person interactions and therefore reducing the number of opportunities for the virus to jump from person to person.

If more people don't understand this and take the guidance seriously. We WILL end up with draconian travel restrictions and curfews.

[Miriel]

So many people just don't get it. My dad's in his sixties. He's going shopping almost every day 'to see what's there'. His partner is working from home, he keeps going over to visit her and her adult children. He doesn't care if he catches it because 'it's like having the flu' and last night he defended the 'herd immunity' policy to me. He won't listen to any of the statistics I give him, or reports of what's going on in Italy. He just doesn't get it.

I'm in the 'vulnerable' group but there is no way I'd be going near a supermarket during the priority hour. If I have to go, I'll go when it's quietest.

[evilharpy]

We went for a walk at a big National Trust country park area (basically a field). The car park was very busy but we hardly saw anyone and when we did it was from a good 100m away.

I went for a run yesterday morning (alone), saw a few people out walking their dogs (alone or couples) and shouted hello from the other side of the road. Everyone was giving a wide berth.

Saw all the grandparents for mother's day via skype.

[WhiteChocTwix]

@The80sweregreat I feel the same as you. We all have to listen to the advice! DH WFH full-time, my temping job got cancelled last week so no income and staying at home. I feel down today, never thought we'd live in a world where things like going to the hairdressers was dangerous! I cancelled my hair appointment last week. DF is high risk, not seen him for weeks. 😢 DH and I are going for a daily walk around the estate we live in but that's it. We hardly ever see anyone doing that and if we do, just cross to the other side of the road.

[CassidyStone]

DH and I are both frontline NHS workers. We went to Tesco for the NHS hour yesterday. ID cards were scrutinised. Everyone in the queue practiced social distancing and going round the store was the same. Every customer was given a bouquet of flowers and a box of chocolates. The till queues were marked out with yellow lines to keep people 6ft apart. After we shopped, we went home and sat in the sunshine in the garden and had video calls with our adult DC. It's a different way of living but it's not going to be forever.

[fromdownwest]

These idiots will ruin it for everyone, I see no problem walking on a beach alone with my dog keeping at least 25 m away from people. I wait until low tide, so that there is plenty of space.

However, I live in a seaside town, I drove through to see people queing for ice cream and chips like it was some bl**dy bank holiday weekend.

When I left the beach, FOUR familes of at least 2 generations were setting up a picnic, drinking wine from plastic beakers.

Genuine question, are people thick? Or are they under estimating what is coming?

[Oliversmumsarmy]

helgahelga

Don’t you understand that it isn’t just your dc you were in contact with but all the people they have been in contact with in the past couple of weeks and all the people they were in contact with etc etc

If anyone of them had the virus then there is the possibility that the virus could have been passed on to your dc and then onto you who is then going to pass it on to someone else.

FWIW 19 year old dds friends who have parents who are in the vulnerable groups (cancer/diabetic etc) they seem to be taking this seriously and isolating themselves.

[Curious78]

I wonder if some of those pictured at busy parks/markets/beaches at the weekend still have the attitude of "65 million people, 5000 cases", what's the big deal? Let's hope they don't suffer family loss over Coronavirus, because that's the only way they are going to sit up and pay attention.

[ChilliMayo]

I feel a better idea would have been to ringfence one supermarket for NHS staff, especially since I understand competition rules between supermarkets have been suspended.
In Ashford we have 2 x Tesco superstores, 1 x Sainsbury, Asda, Iceland, 1 x Tesco Express, 1 x Marks foodhall, 1 x Waitrose, a large Co-op, a decent Budgens. All within 10 mins of the hospital, and all with parking.
We should ringfence M & S for NHS. It would be more convenient for them after their various shifts, and safer from transmission risks.

[Iamamoleinthegarden]

Half the population are below average intelligence.

[dorapicasso]

I'm going for a walk every day but just sticking to suburban housing streets. It's not particularly pretty but the sun has been shining and I pass very few people. I'd much rather be in a park or beauty spot but they are much more busy.

It does make me laugh at the outrage from some people who are walking on beaches and in parks and outraged at all the other people there!

[ZooeyS]

helgahelga I'm quite impressed you've made it to the age you have with that level of intellect.

[Fruitsaladjelly]

I wasn’t out on Sunday, I was out every other day last week as I’m a key worker so I have to be out, if I’m not out for work I’m not out. I now have Covid -19 so I’m not out. Stay in people, it’s literally everywhere right now, don’t take the figures on the news to be accurate, three out of four in my house have it, I’m sure it’ll become 4, we haven’t called anyone or been tested so won’t form part of the figures. Just take a couple of weeks indoors/ in your own gardens to allow the current wave to subside, it’s not that long and by doing it you are saving lives. My ability to process oxygen is way down, if I get out of bed I have head rush, if I walk I really have head rush, if I say a long sentence, I have head rush. If I get worse I’ll need help, we need to make sure too many people don’t need help at the same time.

[3rdNamechange]

@helgahelga

[Irial]

for those who think its ok to still meet up with people

[Oliversmumsarmy]

Miriel I was ill over New Year. I think if I had what I had now it would have probably been diagnosed as Corona.

I have had flu (one of the dangerous kinds) and whilst the basic symptoms are that of flu it has the added bonus of making you cough so much that you throw up anything you have eaten or drunk.
It makes you cough so much that you can’t breath in as the need to cough is so overwhelming
It leaves you gasping for breath so you can’t sleep for more than a few minutes as you have to concentrate on trying to breathe

I wear a Fitbit and it said one night I had 11 minutes sleep

This is nothing like flu

[3rdNamechange]

Helga is not getting it because she doesn't want to. She won't come back now because she doesn't like all the nasty people ganging up on her.
Stay safe Helga , hope I don't see you in AE soon.

[Irial]

is not getting it because she doesn't want to

i first read that as shes not getting the virus, then i thought, oh maybe they mean "not understanding it"

[Squaffle]

I took 3 year old DD out for a bike ride yesterday, but we turned around and went back home when I saw what was going on.

London park, people having picnics, using the playground, having big group walks and playing football like any other Sunday. My DD fully understood that we needed to leave a big gap between ourselves and other people, but it simply wasn't possible. So we are now stuck in a 2 bedroom flat with no garden and we absolutely won't be going out again.

It boggles my brain that a 3 year old understands it better than all the adults we saw.

[XingMing]

COVID19 is going to improve the gene pool massively, provided the intelligent people stay at home and isolate or social distance.

The stupid ... rather less chance, but it's the numbers of front line staff they take down with them that concerns me.

[Disfordarkchocolate]

Yesterday I didn't see my Mam, it was really sad as she's already very isolated in a care home.

I didn't go because I want her to be safe. That means not visiting. It doesn't mean your adult children pop in for an hour.

Think of your self as 'six degrees from Covid-19' and imagine if that's a risk you want to take.

[Gutterton]

At the Govt press conference yesterday the female epidemiologist said the the biggest risk of infection are the family/friends gatherings indoors as you are likely to be physically closer than 2m at some point and spend more time together face to face (being with someone for more than 15m increases risk) and also will bring/leave virus onto more surfaces which you will touch repeatedly in your home.

If you went for a walk in the park you could keep 2m away, not be with someone outside of your household for 15mins and not leave/pick up virus if you didn’t touch gates, benches, play equipment.

Being busy professionals assume they will have had greater exposure to others and either will spread it to you or you spread it to them and their colleagues (if they are not WFH).