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If you were one of them, why?

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Insideimsprinting · 23/03/2020 06:57

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-51998512

Please see link, loads flood the tescis NHS hour, ignoring the why the NHS hour exists.
Also in news on TV last night everyone Congregating in parks and at beach.

Why?
Why us it just not sinking in wiith you all?
Please explain your logic and how you would feel if government just got sick of you not listening that they put in heavier restrictions and the army to police it simply because you couldn't manage to do it yourself?

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TabbyMumz · 23/03/2020 09:58

I think a lot of photos I've seen are open to misinterpretation. For example pictures of cars parked at national trusts. A lot of national trusts have bloody huge grounds..you could get a hundred people there and still not see other people for miles. I also saw a picture of people sat on a bench in the countryside and people were saying how terrible it was. That could have been us. We sat on a bench in the sunshine for ages, it was lovely. No one was near us.

PrincessHoneysuckle · 23/03/2020 09:58

Its not is

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 23/03/2020 09:59

Oh goody... yet another thread (which should be on the CV board) created to root out and pillory posters for the gratification of the OP and other posters who feel the rage and want to call people names.

Do you think, OP, that those people who defy the instructions will give a fig what you or anybody else thinks or says? People are not answerable to a chatboard.

MindyStClaire · 23/03/2020 10:00

Wow vikkimoog. There is nothing wrong with going for a walk, so long as it's quiet enough.

helgahelga · 23/03/2020 10:02

Nope! I am not 'one of them,' and am not apologising for seeing my 2 adult DC for an hour in MY HOUSE. We are middle aged, and they are in their 20s, and have no children. We also saw no elderly people yesterday.

Me and DH are no more likely to get coronavirus from seeing them for an hour in our HOME, than we are from going to the shops, or from DH going to work and mixing with 100s of people and then coming home.

Compared to a lot of people crammed in on tubes and in parks and on beaches and crammed together in their 1000s in Cornwall, and up Mount Snowdon, we had very little contact.

So no, you are not going to make me feel bad, no matter how much you hurl insults at me, like 'you are selfish' and 'you are stupid.'

If you weren't able to see your children or mother yesterday, and your Mother's Day was not great, then I am sorry about that, but don't take it out on me, or anyone else who WAS able to do so, by calling us selfish and stupid and other rude names, and coming out with passive aggressive shit like 'I hope helga doesn't seek medical help when she gets coronavirus.'

As I said, we are no more likely to get coronavirus from a brief visit from our DC as we are from popping to the shops for an hour, or from DH going to work and back. So just bore off with the nasty comments, and all the condescending, passive aggressive bollocks you're coming out with.

@LyingWitchInTheWardrobe

Oh goody... yet another thread (which should be on the CV board) created to root out and pillory posters for the gratification of the OP and other posters who feel the rage and want to call people names.

Do you think, OP, that those people who defy the instructions will give a fig what you or anybody else thinks or says? People are not answerable to a chatboard.

Yep this. 100%.

MindyStClaire · 23/03/2020 10:02

The problem with the supermarket hours is that if all vulnerable people plus all NHS workers are eligible, that's actually a huge proportion of the population. Everyone over 70, everyone pregnant, anyone with asthma or diabetes. The NHS is the biggest employer in the country I think.

Pishposhpashy · 23/03/2020 10:02

So we went to our big local park at the weekend which usually has loads of wide open space free. We don't have a garden so it is imperative I can take my 4 year old out for exercise.

We had to go home again as we were unable to maintain social distancing.

I really think that those lucky enough to have their own gardens should be using them and leaving public spaces for those of us without them. There would not be an issue with maintaining 2 metres from others then.

WhatHappenedThen · 23/03/2020 10:03

smiften

I presume Helga will refuse all medical help if she has now contracted the virus
Natural Selection at work

I think what Helga did was wrong but I think your comment is beyond nasty.

3rdNamechange · 23/03/2020 10:03

@helgahelga your Dcs could have infected you yesterday. You'll go shopping and infect a few more people. Your DH will go to work and infect a few more.
You're another one who's not getting it , why was your Mother's Day more important than the people you might be infecting this week ?

When will people realise because they feel ok it doesn't mean they might not already have it ???? And therefore be spreading it round.

I'm frontline NHS , stay at home. I wish I could.

switswoo81 · 23/03/2020 10:07

But Helga and I'm not ganging up on you it's really not about you and your children getting sick because you are all in the low risk category. It's about the person you could pass it on to that is vunerable by just leaving the virus in a shop etc. It's about stopping the spread to everyone.
One bar man in the Alps is the source oclf infection of over 500 people.
This is short term pain for long term gain

We have elderly hours for shopping here and there is security on the door.

ShirleyPhallus · 23/03/2020 10:09

we are no more likely to get coronavirus from a brief visit from our DC as we are from popping to the shops for an hour, or from DH going to work and back

How do you know that? How do you know that your children don’t already have it, they’ve now passed it to you and you’ve infected all the other people you’ve come in to contact with?

While it’s essential your husband works, it is NOT essential to see your children and adds additional risk.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 23/03/2020 10:09

Natural Selection at work.

If only.

Sadly the virus doesn't target pig-headed.

TheElementsOfMedical · 23/03/2020 10:09

The reason why it is still a good idea to avoid unnecessary social contact even if somebody still has to work/buy groceries/attend appointments is due to Graph Theory. Everybody who interacts is a node/vertex. To minimise transmission, DON'T BE A NODE.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_theory

Irial · 23/03/2020 10:10

seriously - when will this get through to people?? We cannot stop it if YOU DO NOT STAY AWAY FROM PEOPLE!

Me and DH are no more likely to get coronavirus from seeing them for an hour in our HOME, than we are from going to the shops, or from DH going to work and mixing with 100s of people and then coming home.

Actually, your risk does increase, because you have mixed with people you DIDNT NEED TO MIX WITH - and yes, you do deserve the name calling, because YOU are being irresponsible.

Maybe this wont work - but with idiots acting like "oh well, it doesnt matter" its got no fucking chance to work has it?

BonnesVacances · 23/03/2020 10:10

It's all or nothing isn't it? If people can't shut down 100% of the risk, eg. DH is still going to work, they can't see the point in reducing it by 25%, eg. not seeing friends. Or by 50% by also not going to the shops. It really is a very thick nation. It's utterly despairing.Hmm

BertiesLanding · 23/03/2020 10:11

@helgahelga

I understand you think there's no more risk, but, actually, you have increased the risk three-fold by having your two children in your home with you. Your logic is faulty.

And, perhaps, you can see why so many people are "one of them". You ardently believe that you're not doing any harm. They believe the same thing. The more you deny, the more they deny, the deeper in this we get.

Is there a chink of insight getting through?

AmelieTaylor · 23/03/2020 10:12

and the majority had scraves round their face

THats like putting a fence post in & thinking it’s enough to keep cattle enclosed.

The virus I sent 1/900th of the width of a strand of hair. THe holes on a scarf are thousands of times bigger than the virus. It MAY help a tiny fraction in the distance some of the virus travels if the wearer is contagious , maybe. But it will not STOP you breathing it in.

TheElementsOfMedical · 23/03/2020 10:12

It's all or nothing isn't it? If people can't shut down 100% of the risk, eg. DH is still going to work, they can't see the point in reducing it by 25%, eg. not seeing friends. Or by 50% by also not going to the shops.

Exactly! If you can't help being a node with x number of connections, you can still help by not being the node with x+y number of connections.

BertiesLanding · 23/03/2020 10:13

All of you who are going out or having visitors and who are saying "I'm not like the others."

Yes. You are.

Willow2017 · 23/03/2020 10:14

I imagine they headed out thinking it would be empty (it usually is in March) then as everyone else was doing it, they just acted like normal.
So if all those people had decided to walk of a cliff they would just have followed as they cant think for themselves?

A lot of national trusts have bloody huge grounds..you could get a hundred people there and still not see other people for miles
That will be why the NT has closed down everywhere then...not because they were appalled that people flocked in droves to thier places and wouldnt stick to the social distancing rules but nobody thought ooh i had better go home as there are too many people!

Take a look at some of the photos on news feeds there are hundreds of people together in parks and beaches all over the country. Its a national crisis of stupidity.
I am ashamed of the UK just now.

MrsNettle · 23/03/2020 10:14

Yeah, it's other people who go to the park are the problem, not 'me', because I was just [insert an excuse]. Seriously?! People complain about others in the parks and on the streets and can't see that they are part of the problem since they are there too???

BonnesVacances · 23/03/2020 10:14

Me and DH are no more likely to get coronavirus from seeing them for an hour in our HOME, than we are from going to the shops, or from DH going to work and mixing with 100s of people and then coming home.

Can't you see the cumulative effect of taking all those risks though? It's truly baffling. Confused

ShesGotBetteDavisEyes · 23/03/2020 10:15

I LOVE the Italian mayors!

This morning I went for a run at 6am, passed maybe 3 dog walkers but kept my distance. Yesterday we walked to the park down a secluded path and were shocked to see the throngs of people walking past one another on the public path. We went home. The kids have asked to go for a walk today but I think I’m going to say no.

Il keep going for my early run as long as I’m allowed but anything other than that and essential shopping is out now.

I think people know lockdown is coming and want their last bit of freedom - but I don’t understand those who aren’t at least practising social distancing.

LottieBees19 · 23/03/2020 10:16

I have been in all week.
Went shopping for a family self isolating last week. Bakers and butchers. Butchers was empty , bakers crammed with people , I paid and didn’t wait for change. People just don’t get social distancing imo.
The next few weeks are going to be hell for NHS, anyone over 60 wont stand a chance imo.

countrygirl99 · 23/03/2020 10:17

helga the chances of getting cv from your adult DC may be no higher than going to the supermarket, but it means you have 2 chances of catching it instead of 1. And every risk you take is not just a risk with your life, it's a risk with everyone 's lives.