Ffs neighbours are having a garden party

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WTAF!?
Just popped out to hang my washing. My dc joined me for a run around.
Lots of noise coming from the neighbours garden (next door but one). Including a continuous cough.
They’ve got four extra cars parked on their drive.
What’s wrong with people?
Why would people do this?

Again from the government guidelines at the bottom on the page.

If you meet others when you are outdoors (for example, on a walk) ensure that you stay at least 2 meters away

This is going to put us in a lockdown.

If only this were all. This will put us into the same situation as Italy.

My brother sent me a video of a lot of people outside his house in London basically dancing and drinking together! There must have been about 25/30 people on the street. Shocking how absolutely dumb people are.

At the last press briefing on Friday it was said that children could see friends and for example go for bike rides, and that people should still get outside for their mental health. So in some of the previous poster's opinions, what is allowed under that umbrella and what isn't?

I had assumed that occasional walks outside with friends and children keeping at a distance, in the countryside, would be considered as falling under that description.

wobbly you cross posted with me. Look at the context of that statement.

Why would you miss being outside with out her people if you can meet them but 2m away?

But they won't be. They drove there. They won't be 2 metres apart in their cars.

Flights still arriving from Italy, the rest of Europe, China - I never thought I was say the following - time to close our borders.

People just won't stay 2m away from each other if they are friends walking together.

Think of it this way - you know what it's like to talk to someone over the roof of a car- so both of you about to get in standing by the door - it feels a bit like you need to shout/speak loudly as you are further away than you would socially distance.

The average width of a small car is 1.7m. The average width of a large car/SUV is about 1.9 m.

Even that isn't far enough. Add to that people aren't good at judging distances and will move closer together as they walk and talk.

It's just crazy to meet for non-essential social contact of that type at this time.

On our street we have all been isolating ourselves. But getting out for walks when we can. And in the spring sunshine earlier, the adults from 3 households enjoyed a coffee outdoors and a catch up for the first time in weeks - on the green, 2 metres apart, having each brought out our own coffees - but just catching up while still following the social distance guidelines.

God knows why people feel the need to take every bit of guidance and then just see what they can get away with using brainless logic about why it's technically fine for them. It does show them up for who they are, at least.

A friend who is a key worker is off to her mums for mothers day today, recently been very ill herself with a cough, to a house her siblings and newborn niece also live just on the basis that 'none of them have symptoms' and 'its mothers day!/it's so and so's FIRST mothers day' -Mad that a social worker (mum) and a teacher (daughter) don't have either the wherewithal or the sense of social obligation to just follow advice or even understand the simple protocol that has been given. Makes you just despair and wonder how they managed to do their own jobs in the first place.

Without wishing to be morbid I wonder how many people signed a family members death warrant today. Those who have died so far ARE someones parent or family member and they did get it FROM someone. It seems very sad that people just can't even contemplate personal inconvenience even though it will save lives .

mummydoris2006 I live about 12 miles from you, I drove to Skeg on Friday for an emergency dental appointment, couldn’t believe how many people were wandering about.
Caravan parks are all open for business, bars open in Ingoldmells (according to a friend who works in Tesco there). No food (or booze) in the shops, but people congregating on the sea fronts.
Police Commissioner has asked to have the holiday parks closed. Watch this space!

@UnitDare said: Going for a walk with members of your own household yet staying 2 m from others is encouraged. The problem is people aren't 2 m when they pass each other (I doubt friends would stay 2 m away) so I expect a crack down on this will have to follow.

I agree. But guidelines are too vague. The last public announcement I heard actively encouraged going for a walk or cycle ride. They meant 'I your household unit' but didn't say it explicitly. I had friends texting to catch up for a walk and had to explain that's not what is meant.

We have been for two family walks on open heath. On one, it was impossible to stay 2m away from others while passing them. On the other, we went off the beaten track to avoid people. But there is a party atmosphere everywhere - in food queues in the village, at car park kiosk cafes etc. DC stoof 2m away from the next in line in a queue for water at a kiosk and the woman frowned at them and served someone else instead who came and stood closer in line.

It's scary how much people don't get it.

In Ireland grandparents and grandchildren are seeing each other through locked windows. A lot of elderly people are cocooning even though they haven't been told to yet officially. Can't understand why stupid grandparents and their children are bringing grandkids into their elderly grandparents houses.

The noisy dickheads next door to me are having a party too. They've already ruined the peace with their screechy grandkids, gobshite son in law and yappy dog, as they do every time the weather is nice. Now they're ignoring social distancing too.

Just thought of something. What If by some chance, these people are so ignorant that they don't even watch, read, or listen to the news?

It's not natural selection if they pass the virus on to key workers, doctors, emergency services, etc. HCP are exposed to a very high viral load, lack PPE and are therefore vulnerable to CV. In Italy, they account for 8.3% of cases and one of the Italian doctors who tried to alert people to the shortage of PPE died of CV last week, aged 57.
www.businessinsider.fr/us/italian-doctor-dies-from-coronavirus-covid-19-after-warning-low-supplies-2020-3

These people are endangering others' lives, not just their own. That is not natural selection.

@Slingsanderrors I'm in Wainfleet and we've been going for a walk with the dog at night just to get some fresh air as I'm now working from home. We shout hello to other dog walkers from one side of the road to the other but everyone is keeping apart and respecting each others space. I work for a local electricians and we've been inundated still with people wanting their caravan electric tested. Not only that they want to be there as they "don't like strangers in the van". It's so annoying that our health is being put into jeopardy by selfish people who don't even actually live here so don't NEED to be here

You're all focussing on the walk part. It's easy to maintain a distance, for right or wrong. I'm more concerned that they're then going back and having a cup of tea together - are the guests taking their own thermos and sitting on chairs they've brought? Because otherwise they're going to be touching all manner of surfaces and objects their friends have touched and then they'll give the cups back and someone will wash them and they'll have touched things handled by the guests...

With a vulnerable family member inside, too? Not worth the risk, imo.

I took the dog for his usual.walk yesterday and today. I normally pass a few other dog walkers and some older people walking round the lake

It has been packed. People in quite large groups walking in file, almost like a celebratory procession. I changed my route and found the other locals, all walking metres apart, taking different paths round the boggy tree'd area.

This is what's happening here, too - including people who are obviously terrified of dogs - one lady literally froze (except for frantically waving hands) shrieking "ohgodohdogohgodohgodadogadogadogohgodadog", because one of my dogs ran across her path about three yards in front of her.

I appreciate that people have phobias - but it's a well-known dog-walking area and the dog was nowhere near her and certainly wasn't taking any notice of her.

I said "Sorry - didn't mean to worry you" and called the dog back. "Are you going now?" "Yes - as soon as I've picked up this poo." "Which way are you going? Where are you going? Are you going now?"

So I told her what my intended route was - but good luck to her if she was hoping to avoid dogs. There are a lot of us. Sometimes we walked round as a group, but now we just give a cheery wave and walk on. But as you say - entire families - people who have probably never walked cross fields before (as evidenced by their footwear!) have suddenly taken to the "wilds", but not in a safe way.

I'm more concerned that they're then going back and having a cup of tea together - are the guests taking their own thermos and sitting on chairs they've brought? Because otherwise they're going to be touching all manner of surfaces and objects their friends have touched and then they'll give the cups back and someone will wash them and they'll have touched things handled by the guests...

I thought this yesterday when someone posted that her elderly mother's neighbour came in, plonked her bum down and said "Well, we're a metre apart" and then got p*ssed off because the poster threw her our.

We had to go to the vet but then took dog to a big park and most people were a long way from each other. Dd and I managed to walk around without getting near anyone but others were sat together at picnic benches. I assumed that they were nuclear families. Even in the vets everyone was very respectful of distance.

My neighbours have people round there are 4 adults who already live there 2 who are over 70 and 2 children
They have 6 more people visiting and they are all squashed around 2 picnic tables eating food that is buffet style

I think we need lock down. I am confused to what is and isnt essential my mum lives alone 2 mins up the road is not high risk no health issues but I see being with my mum as essential she is mixing with no one else isbts attending church doesnt work etc. I have decided to pull my son out of day care even tho its still open, im working from home avoiding friends etc. If we are being told to socially distance i read keeping distance and outdoors keeping visits short is better than indoors etc. Is this right wrong?? What would you do in my situation?

I’ve just been for my normal Sunday cycle and I have never ever in my life seen the rural roads so busy. Cars parked everywhere.