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Lockdown is not the answer

363 replies

NellyGrace · 22/03/2020 09:11

We have a vulnerable family member and have been isolating for 9 days. This is unsustainable. It will drive us mad.

Whilst it was just the vulnerable we could cope as we could still go out to walk. We have no garden.

If the crazy want to carry on mixing. Let them. The vulnerable can hide if they choose.

Test like South Korea and isolate the pockets of disease.

We should not be allowing governments to use this as a way to take away our freedom.

OP posts:
ShanghaiDiva · 22/03/2020 09:12

The govt is putting lives over individual freedom on a temporary basis. This is vital.

LouisaJenny · 22/03/2020 09:13

Lockdown is vital. We’ve already waited too long.

GADDay · 22/03/2020 09:15

You are entitled to your opinion. I think you are wrong

Marieo · 22/03/2020 09:15

Yes let's let thousands of people die (not just from Corona, if you have a heart attack at home there wont be the medical care to help), rather than people stay indoors for a while. This is exactly why we need lockdown, because people are selfish.

Dongdingdong · 22/03/2020 09:17

There are some interesting points on this by Peter Hitchens in the Daily Mail today:

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8138675/PETER-HITCHENS-shutting-Britain-REALLY-right-answer.html

Snowflakes1122 · 22/03/2020 09:17

Disagree-if we carry on as we are, the idiots still socialising put everyone else at risk-we still have to venture out for food and medicine etc.

We must have a lockdown because of the stupid amongst us, as it’s not just them it’s affecting.

Holidayreservation · 22/03/2020 09:17

The government tried an approach whereby people used common sense and decency. It didn’t work. Just look at the final big night out on Friday.

I’m starting to think survival of the fittest - if you’re too dumb to watch the news and take this seriously I have no sympathy.

bluetongue · 22/03/2020 09:17

I’m pretty sure if there was a better option than shutting down the economy and taking away our freedom the government would have done it. They have pretty smart experts advising them on all these measures.

chillychicken · 22/03/2020 09:18

Read some of the threads on here today...you’ll see why total lockdown is vital and it can’t come bloody soon enough.

Eggcited · 22/03/2020 09:19

If the crazy want to carry on mixing. Let them.

I work in a school. Yesterday some of the children I will be looking after on Monday were out with friends. Their choice to mix means I could be at more risk.

It's not just about those who refuse to comply with the current advice, it's about all the other people who will be affected by their decisions.

SQuueze · 22/03/2020 09:19

I have to tend to agree with you. I’m not sure it’s sustainable for any length of time. People will find ways round it and secretly which will make it worse.

MissMarks · 22/03/2020 09:19

Watch the news about what’s happening in Italy. You might change your mind.

Rainbowunicat · 22/03/2020 09:20

'if the crazy want to carry on mixing'...erm, I'm a key worker, I hope no choice but to be out and mixing. The sooner they force the rest of you selfish people to stay at home the better.

nancypineapple · 22/03/2020 09:22

Sorry in London I feel it's the only thing to do. I for one will give up my families liberty for a few weeks to buy the NHS some time. Lockdown with no warning so we dont get the situation in Italy or France.

PinkyU · 22/03/2020 09:23

Why is it so difficult to be around around your family for a prolonged period of time?

You’re doing it to literally keep people alive, surely that’s worthy of your discomfort at having to make nice with your relatives?

CrunchyCarrot · 22/03/2020 09:23

Yes it's difficult, especially if you only have a small house with many family members. But the alternative is you get sick as do they, and some of you end up in hospital in ICU and perhaps don't survive. Or you infect others who end up there. We all are going to have to suck it up if we want to get through this. This is bloody serious stuff.

LimpidPools · 22/03/2020 09:23

You are incorrect.

I'm sorry isolating is shit. But it's temporary. Death isn't.

And the government isn't using this as a ploy to permanently deprive us all of civil liberties.

Dongdingdong · 22/03/2020 09:24

The government tried an approach whereby people used common sense and decency.

Sadly a vast number of Brits have neither.

LimpidPools · 22/03/2020 09:25

Lol PinkyU, you wouldn't ask that if you'd met some members of my family Grin

Not the ones I live with, thank Christ.

MinkowskisButterfly · 22/03/2020 09:28

Lockdown is needed. There appear to be a bunch of cunts not abiding by the rules (not calling you that op). Yesterday at my husbands work's someone bastard walked up to him, hit him on the back and said 'happy corona day' - a lockdown is needed.

YappityYapYap · 22/03/2020 09:33

I didn't take coronavirus seriously at first. A few weeks a go I was like the numbers are very low, we might be overreacting etc.

Now though? I'm taking it seriously. Something like 54 people died in the UK in just 24 hours in the last couple of days. In Italy, they had 800 deaths in 24 hours in the last couple of days too and that is where we are headed sadly. We cope with the flu outbreak every year because we are used to it, we've been doing it for years. We've found ways to protect the vulnerable from flu meaning that the UK usually only has around 500 deaths per year due to flu, that's over a whole year or flu season. We are at half that amount from coronavirus already and it's only been 7 weeks and we haven't hit full outbreak yet.

It does need to be taken seriously. Not only for the amount of deaths but for the amount of people that will end up in hospital with breathing problems and pneumonia needing intensive care treatment.

We have a 3 year old and no we won't be keeping him inside the whole time unless he shows symptoms but without symptoms, the only places we will take him is to play in the garden and for walks around our area when no one else is going about and probably a drive in the car sometimes to limit cabin fever. He won't have contact with anyone but me and DH. He will facetime his grandparents and he can look at photos online of his nursery pals. Same goes for me and DH. We are working at home. We will venture out sometimes to get food but that's it and firm hand washing will be done if me or DH go out to get food. We want to do our bit, we don't want to contribute to anyones death or suffering. It's just going to be the 3 of us for however long and we just need to accept that

mrshoho · 22/03/2020 09:35

That daily mail article is irresponsible. I've not read it all but while it's dismissing the deaths as being no different to flu or cardiovascular deaths there's no mention of the deaths of the doctors and health workers. That is not something that ordinarily happens with other seasonal illness. This is not the time to be trivialising this disease.

vegas888 · 22/03/2020 09:35

So why put us on lockdown but allow flights in from Italy, Iran and China still. 🤔🤔🤔

mrshoho · 22/03/2020 09:41

@vegas888 that's a question I'd like asked at the press conference. How are we dealing with travellers returning on these flights and how many ?

returnofthecat · 22/03/2020 09:45

I think we'll probably have to have a proper lock down in due course policed by the army, because as a nation, we are apparently too stupid to behave and use common decency.

I like having individual freedoms.

I love not dying.