Lockdown is not the answer

[NellyGrace]

We have a vulnerable family member and have been isolating for 9 days. This is unsustainable. It will drive us mad.

Whilst it was just the vulnerable we could cope as we could still go out to walk. We have no garden.

If the crazy want to carry on mixing. Let them. The vulnerable can hide if they choose.

Test like South Korea and isolate the pockets of disease.

We should not be allowing governments to use this as a way to take away our freedom.

Yes I did factor in vaccination. I have a vague idea of timeframes for that and guess what, it's years not months.

ikea if you have been invested in this for weeks you might be a bit burned out. I think maybe try to stop posting saying "it won't work, nothing will work" because you don't know it won't work, you just feel it, and that might be because you are burned out, and there are a lot of people saying it might well work and ... it might. There is power from being either positive or negative, being positive does often produce a different outcome from being negative. If after 2 or 3 or 4 weeks of total lockdown there is no sign of change then we can think again but for now, lockdown is what has been asked for and is the best solution, right now.

OP you are also obviously feeling very negative. For you and your family this is difficult but for many people a few weeks of lockdown is going to be fine, so please could i suggest that you just focus on making things better for your family within the constraints for example do go for walks but keep away from other people? And start a new thread about your personal situation to see if anyone has ideas about how things could be made better for you personally, within the constraints?

Bon courage to all.

Yes it is partly burnout, I know what you mean. It's also the next stage ... acceptance. You guys will get there in a few weeks. I'll see you on the other side. I'm sad we didn't lock down earlier, but it is what it is. I recognise that my posts are probably just stressing you guys out so I'll try and stop. We're just chilling now to be honest, got all our food in, clearing my money out of the banks now, not much else to do. Once we've caught it and hopefully come out the other side then we will be more use to everyone. I'm fully in mitigation mode, see you all there in a few weeks xx

Ikea, you are honestly being ridiculous and you really need to stop with the patronising ‘you will catch up with super-clever me in a few weeks’. You are no better informed than anyone else. We all know how long vaccines take. Never before in the world have so many people been working on the same problem and other treatments are possible as well to keep things going whilst we wait for a vaccine. We are all well aware of the devastation that will be caused in the meantime. Saying ‘it is what it is’ over and over again is on the intellectual level of a Love Island contestant.

See you in a few weeks time

OP can you get outside at all with your daughter? you have a better chance early morning or late evening - if you're at home all day do you have any chance to be near an open window?

Lockdown seems to be the only way to flatten the curve, which is completely necessary. We all need to step up now and do the right thing. Most places in Germany have banned meeting in groups of more than two (unless they already live in your household). If you would like to think what a massive measure that must be for so many Germans who only one generation ago lived under the Stasi and an authoritarian government then you might realise how serious this now is.

Have UK supermarkets adopted the safety distancing measuements at the checkouts? are they counting how many people are already in shops and implementing a one-out-one-in policy? there are a lot of things that happen in a lockdown or semi lockdown that sound awful but actually it works quite well.

we already know what it is going to be like in 3-4 weeks IKEA so why keep saying it? We are going to have thousands of deaths, hospitals full, ICU unable to treat all the people that need it. Thousands of frontline medical and key staff either isolating or ill themselves. We are shutting down because at best we will have a chance to deal with the already infected.

The numbers from South Korea tell us that if this thing is aggressively slowed, the case numbers can grow only slowly, and the mortality rate can be kept much lower
www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/south-korea/

We most likely would not need to continue a "suppress" strategy for the 12-18 months or more it may take to develop a vaccine.

It could make a massive difference if we can drastically reduce the rate of spread for a few months. That would give us time to build much more testing capacity so that infection cases can be identified early, to learn better treatment protocols for instance by finding out which existing drugs also help against this virus, to get more ventilators and bed available for people who will need them, and last but certainly not least, to get more personal protection equipment supplies for our healthcare workers. These measures would have a good chance of being enough to get the death rate massively lower among those infected, and to lower the infection rate among healthcare workers by getting them the equipment that they need.

Well we are now in lockdown...

It is incredibly irresponsible to continue posting things that you know are doing nothing but upsetting people, Ikea.

No freedom when your dead. Simple. The quicker people do it the quicker it’s over. Keep pissing about and well....

ikea take money out of the banks? but you can't use cash if staying at home / for deliveries. Or do you mean big amounts to stash at home? that's a risk of its own!

I’m staggered that so many just casually dismiss the effect of lockdown on mental health, the devastation to people’s livelihoods, increase in homelessness, domestic violence, suicide - who will pay for the NHS when vast swathes of the country are unemployed?

Any other epidemic the vulnerable naturally shield themselves. I get that this virus is dangerous for the elderly, obese and/or those with underlying health conditions but we were told the lockdown was to allay the contagion to protect the NHS - this has been successful and hospitals are the quietest they’ve been for years.
Alarmingly, it seems that Piers Morgan and the terrified corralled country want to stay lockdowned forever - or at least till a vaccine is found.