to think that our children seem to be carrying the can for all this so far?

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It seems to me that from a social perspective, it’s our children who have, so far, given up the most in order to support the country through this crisis.

They have sacrificed their education; their friendships; their sports events; concerts, shows, and end of term celebrations.

The most vulnerable groups of adults will have had to make the difficult choice to self-isolate.

And meanwhile, our fit, healthy grown adult population continue to go to the gym or the pub.

@Vinylsamso, to be fair, my Dad, who is 80 and so a war baby has only been speaking about the empty supermarket shelves in light of his childhood experiences of rationing until the mid-1950s. Why can we not extend our empathy to our young people? This is an absolutely unprecedented situation so our children and young people should have every right to feel worried and scared alongside us. Why do we have to do our children the disservice of minimising their fears?

I grew up in the 1980s era of the Cold War threat of a nuclear bomb and I clearly remember our household copy of ‘Survive and Protect’ being delivered through our letterbox.

My daughter has today curtailed her Y7 experience at high school and there were Y11 and Y13 young people weeping as they left their school today for the last time, and without their qualifications.

Why do we have to make this a contest of kids vs oldies? Can’t we accept it’s equally as shit for everyone, but maybe in slightly different ways?

Well what is the point of this thread? At the end of the day, what can we do about it? Totally pointless argument that can achieve nothing.

Actually - they're probably the snotty nosed little buggers spreading this thing. Thankfully it seems their age bracket isn't as badly affected as everyone else.
You're off the mark, but you care about kids - you're hardly a serial killer. Sorry you're getting a hard time you deserve

there were Y11 and Y13 young people weeping as they left their school today for the last time, and without their qualifications.

They would have left "without their qualifications" if they'd done a few more weeks and then gone on study leave. Ofqual said today they'll probably be able to get results out, based on progress data, by the end of July!

I'd have jumped for joy if someone had cancelled my exams and based my results on progress data.

You're talking absolute rubbish @ChocolateCard

All the kids I've seen today are out on their bikes or hanging out with friends. Even those in isolation are loving the family time. DS was out in his trampoline, after doing his home work send in from school.

Exams will be marked on the work they've done through the year, probably fairer than exams. They may lose a few months normal interaction with other kids and schools, but there life will go on as before.

Meanwhile adults are facing redundancy, financial hardship, severe health and money worries, as well as serious illness and death of older loved ones. Not to mention the dickery that's going on in shops and the rest of the world.

Stop being ridiculous

@VickyEadieofThigh, good for you, but what if you hadn’t performed so well in your mocks for whatever reason? You sound about 30 or 40 years out of touch.

I am a teacher of many years' experience, a lot at senior level and still work in education. It's not about mock results - surely you know that schools collect progress data throughout the students' courses?

I'm not the one out of touch!

@goldpartyhat, what about the kids on free school meals and those without gardens and trampolines? Why do people here find it so hard to feel empathy with people whose circumstances are removed from their own? And why is it such a common trait here to minimise the feelings of children and young people?

So kids shouldn’t be feeling anything as it’s all about the worries of the adults and their jobs and mortgage payments? Who the fuck here doesn’t remember straining to listen through doors and floor boards as their parents had conversations about money, debts, horrible world circumstances while we were meant to be in bed? And if you didn’t, then you were truly blessed, but maybe you shouldn’t be so oblivious or naive now.

@VickyEadieofThigh, I’m not out of touch, nor am I supercilious, unsympathetic or sarcastic. You, however, sound jaded or unkind. Why the fuck shouldn’t the kids be upset?

Even those in isolation are loving the family time. DS was out in his trampoline, after doing his home work send in from school.

Well that's nice for your ds and you have a garden obviously. Spare a thought for the kids living in tower blocks. All this social isolation is far more enjoyable for the middle class kids sitting in their huge kitchen/diner extensions with their big gardens.

Everyone is making sacrifices. Some adults are working jobs that mean they are literally risking their lives to save others. Some people will certainly die if they’re exposed to it.

And you think your poor darlings missing their prom/end of year party/exams is worse?

Please, get a grip and stop being so precious.

Kids will be fine. So many previous generations lived through much, much worse. (Or in many cases, they weren't lucky enough to survive; fortunately, most children aren't at serious risk from this virus.) They'll make up for lost time, when life gets back to normal.

I'm far more worried about my close relative who works as a nurse for the elderly (and her parents whom she lives with) than I am for the children in my family. ...Then there are all the family and friends who are at increased risk of dying, should they catch it...

@Winterwoollies, yes, and those parents making the ultimate sacrifice will presumably be leaving children and young people behind. Honestly, why does this need to be a race to the bottom-style argument about who is going to have it worst? Seriously, can’t we all pull together and feel empathy for the differing world views of the different generations? We’re all in this together, surely, and it’s really no better or worse for any generation?

@Moominmammaatsea. You are twisting what I’m saying. OP is talking about the huge major sacrifices healthy kids who will come out of this and lead normal lives, are making. And that that have ‘given up’ more than the rest of society?

Is she on glue?

Tell that to the families who can’t pay their mortgage, lose jobs lose loved ones or even lose their own lives.

In perspective, some kids may have anxious times, but most will be fine in a years time. They are certainly not the worst affected in society.

Bit overly dramatic OP....and I say that as the mum of a year 11 student. It's thought and ds2 has been discombobulated and upset but he's adjusting, as we all are to this new and strange normal.

We are all facing extraordinary times. I'm a nurse so at the absolute frontline.

I still feel my family to be lucky; no mortgage as we paid it off last year and both parents have substantive posts which will continue to pay us. DH is now working from home and life has changed dramatically for all of us but we will get through it.

And I only have a tiny garden....the rest is taken up by a summer house with a hot tub in it. (Sorry that’s mean) (blush]

Is this a joke, no wonder there are so many spoilt entitled brats around.

My son didn’t get to sit his GCSE’s and I’m sad about that, they can maintain friendships via video chat. There are much worse off people than our children

OP are you called Greta?

Tell that to the families who can’t pay their mortgage, lose jobs lose loved ones or even lose their own lives

Kids aren't immune to the shit which happens to their families and they're usually the least able to process it and are the ones who have absolutely no control.

@goldpartyhat, to be fair, you came across a bit Marie Antoinette and another poster has picked you up on your observations about your and other children being out on your trampoline. My kids and I live in an apartment block and we have no garden or trampoline. Quarantine and lockdowns will be hellish for us. Presumably, this will be a situation of our own making as I shouldn’t have had children when I wasn’t a member of the landed gentry with a 1,000-acre estate in which my children could lose themselves.

@TitsInAbsentia 😂 Little Sophia has had her childhood stolen because she hasn’t had the ‘experience’ of leaving year 6

Jeeze, people, wake up, it’s not all about your kids!

Absolutely ridiculous.
I'm self-employed - my work has completely stopped.
My husband is immunocompromised - if he catches this his chances are not good so we are having to isolate.
We've lost holidays, visiting friends and theatre tickets.
It's difficult for all of us.

I really feel for kids, particularly those who are going to be most affected (in exam years and yr6) but no, they are not suffering the most.

NotEverythingisBlackandWhite is right. Also think children will be the least affected compared to people losing their job etc, elderly whose lives are at risk. I saw another thread, this will be awful for women and children suffering from abuse and I do truly feel for them...