Worried about Coronavirus - thread 31

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I suppose the higher hit rate is based on the fact we have now only been testing the ill for while now. I can't work out if that's concerning or reassuring.

Switzerland and Germany seem to have much lower death rates than others. Does anyone know what they are doing differently? Is this down to who they are prioritising for testing, or are they managing cases better?

+1035 cases from under 3000 tests.

From 5,842 tests. The number tested yesterday was 66,976.

I live in a seaside town in the North. Today it was packed, like height of summer season packed.

People queueing for fish and chips,tea &coffee sticks of rock all of them virtually touching the person next to them ffs! I'm self isolating (vulnerable group) but pics appeared on Facebook.

Our town is mainly an elderly population. Why do people not realise the harm they are doing spreading this?

Local businesses and people are rallying around to provide home delivery of food to all vulnerable groups but we can't mitigate for fuckwits

Word is that businesses will be voluntarily closing because that's the only way we can put off the morons from visiting.

Please stay at home, we will welcome you back with open arms when this is over, we love having you here normally, but not at the cost of our elderly!

@Lmerc what do you want with farmers private land. And yes. farmers have guns.

If people start coming over our farm and anywhere near my 4 extremely vulnerable adults in my family then yes, I will be pointing a shotgun and telling you to back off. Do you even know what to DO with the land. Let us farmers get on with the job of producing the food, we cant eat whole fields of wheat ourselves. Our farm is in lockdown.

I think what is still to dawn on us is that our lives are going to change for a considerable time. We could have 6 months of this strict distancing followed by a break of some sort for it then to be put back in force for another long time. The economy for now is over and we will be relying on our governments to look after many of us throught no fault of our own. Most people will survive the virus but the effects (health/mental/financial) will take a long time to recover from. But humans are remarkable and as we see businesses are already working out how to adapt and fit in - restaurants switching to delivery, theatres streaming live performances etc. China is emerging from their lockdown but they are in a different position due to the authoritarian approach that went all out to fight the virus quickly. But one day a vaccine will be created and slowly slowly things will recover. I hope when it does more priority will go to our health and social care.

Just to walk through

Jesus nettle that is scary

at thinking they can walk through farmers fields.

I lost faith somewhat when I realised that only hospital admissions were being tested. This was confirmed to me first hand by my friend and partner of one of my DS's who has now been in self-isolation for a week with my DS and her two pre-teen children. They have a good support network, but it's hard going.

I have difficulty believing that much as manufacturers are being turned over to ventilator design and production, similar measures couldn't have been taken to produce test kits and laboratories taken over when it became obvious that this was way bigger than anyone realised.

This slow creep of measures to "flatten the curve" and the gentle "nudges" to get us to alter our behaviour, after first banging on about "herd immunity" which apparently we all got the wrong end of the stick about, is making me feel such utter rage.

I'm still seeing posts on my FB saying there's no point in testing everyone with symptoms - and I have to sit on my hands because what's the point of engaging with stupid that has been engineered by the UK strategy. All travellers into the UK from the first areas affected should have been tested, and so should their contacts. All people with symptom s should be tested and their contacts now. Why is it so fucking hard? I reject the resources thing - we are so behind with the resources because of the delay now!

And I am truly concerned about the NHS staff - some are mt friends and family.
But on that note, my Mum has been visited twice by District Nurses at home for fluid drains and on neither occasion did they wear a mask, even though she is exceptionally vulnerable and I am running errands for her everyday and am out in gen pop WEARING A MASK and risking ridicule and in some cases outright animosity for over-reacting.

Sorry. been a long day - ran the Sainsbury's gauntlet for my Mum, and my dad and step -mum. He has no spleen. Sensibly they virtually poked me out the door with a broom as fast as possible when I dropped off their shopping with much apologetic gratitude. It sucks. It all sucks. Thank you for letting me rant.

@Imerc I live on farm land and now we are rapping up with drilling / spraying and planting. The land is private but we do have footpaths and people occasionally walk dogs / go for a stroll. Have a look for public footpaths through fields just look out for large tractors!

I remember something from the countryside code, right of access. Wasn't sure farmland counted, but that's most land there is ?

Why not just stay at home instead of searching around for private land to go and walk in? Just stay at home. Why is this so hard for some people?

I just want to know what to do in a zombie apocalypse and military blocking roads

Sorry @lmerc - yes footpaths through our land are fine. But we have had trouble already. Sorry, didnt man to scare you. But as others say, we are just putting crops in after the worst winter in history. Many farmers have already had their winter crops washed away - 3 weeks ago half of our farm was literally underwater.
Im just a bit touchy. was on a FB group where people were talking about desending from the city and setting up encampments on farms, getting hold of guns, going all Bear Grylls and taking out farmers livestock. And we have had people this week scoping our barns.

And still other threads talking about what is happening are being reported for lying and scaremongering. Do you think there are Boris plants on here?

@OldQueen1969 not even all hospital admissions. They've up to recently only tested hospital admissions/inpatients with respiratory symptoms although this is changing. Yes medical staff are at very high risk and its scary!

OldQueen listening to HCP on R4 today was heart wrenching, they are not protected.

I also have a young adult child and 2 elderly parents in laws at the farm who will die if they get it. We are trying to isolate completely. So when we have had to deal with trespassers already its scary.

No thanks for telling me

Angry you always do OTT posts. Why?

It's not scaremongering

LOL at NettleTea coming over all Farmer Giles there. Anyone who seriously contemplates pointing a gun at another person in the UK is a dick.

Your a stupid country